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Wish I knew more forgiving people like those who have commented on this thread. In my experience the women have been very reluctant to give second chances and I can't conceive of thirds. Hell, some are offended if you stay hard and don't cum. The pressure I feel to perform has driven me to develop and use an elaborate chemical cocktail. In my opinion, to be a sexual athlete is the expectation.

This has been a major topic in our household lately. It seems like there are a lot more people coming to the clubs that are only interested in watching. We have heard more than one of them utter the term "live porn". We are in total agreement with Spoo and Teresa on this thread. All of us in the lifestyle have a bit of a voyeur in us. We all get a charge out of seeing our SO with someone else or others having sex. And like Teresa said – “With everyone being naked it makes a more level playing field.” And who doesn't look when others are running around naked. For us clubs have always been a place where we are free to participate in the lifestyle. For some that is just socializing, (we have done that on many occasions), for others it is meeting people and going off to play (isn't this really what we are in the lifestyle for anyway, well at least the ones who are REALLY in the lifestyle). We have been to many clubs that have an area specifically geared towards meeting the needs of the couples who enjoy having others watch them, thus providing a place for voyeurism. Those of us who want to enjoy the play areas of a club have always had an unspoken understanding that from time to time you may see or be seen naked or having sex. The key part of this was that all of us are participants in the lifestyle. We get just a little pissed, at people who think that if they pay to get into a club that they are in the lifestyle and are therefore somehow entitled to get to watch. Sorry but it doesn't work that way! Clubs are a place for REAL swingers/lifestyle people to meet other people, get acquainted, perhaps play, and PARTICIPATE in the lifestyle. It is not a place for people to come and watch a live sex show! Theses people are NOT swingers and that is NOT what the lifestyle is all about. We have always felt like they are an unwanted intrusion at clubs. Another pet peeve has been when you invest your time trying to get to know a couple only to find out they are never going to play because they are the Lookie Lou’s only there to get all worked up and go home hot and bothered for each other………..oh well this is a topic for another thread…… Tom, Annie & Pam – The Ménage’s