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In the four years we have been playing we have met and played with exactly 4 single females... and at times we have worked hard for it... even our name... twoforone100 is a sign that this was our interest..... single women.. have all the choice.. males...females...couples... they also have safety concerns... you want them to be alone with a couple sexually. They are unicorns... YOU have to " sell " yourself to them.... they are usually not out looking because if they do go look they can find something they want in about 5 mins. YOU NEED pic's.. Of Both of you. Without them you are spinning your wheels. SHE really needs to do the looking. Single women are NOT going to want to talk with the guy.. and YOU have to do what they want as someone said about " supply and demand" As far as finding women in clubs.. well unless you give off that party couple vibe you won't have much luck... YOU have been given good advice above...YOU have come up with a reason why you can't do any of it. Those are the answers.. there is NO magic bullet... fwiw... we have had much more fun with couples.. and you never know there are couples where the guys just watches..... there are soft swap couples... there are girl/girl couples. But to keep doing the same old things over and over when you know they don't work well that is crazy...ymmv

Let me start off by saying I am a married straight guy, who has no intentions of having a regular swinging relationship with my wife. Not only would she object to the idea, I just couldn't share her in that way. With that being said, I am selfish not only in not wanting to share her, but I am selfish because I cannot seem to stay faithful to my wife. I have cheated on every person I have ever been involved with, and it is something I cannot seem to stop doing. Often times I think it might be genetic, because I have learned it stems from my grandfather, and suspicions of his father cheating as well. Here is a little background on a swinging experience I had, to see where my train of thought is now. I was in Las Vegas with 3 friends for a convention two years ago. The first night there, one of my friends and I hung out at the bar in the hotel drinking. We met a couple from Oklahoma and really hit it off. We were buying them drinks, they were buying us drinks, and after a while the female asked me what I was into. I hesitantly asked "what do you mean?", and she replied "as in drugs, do you like them or do them?". I opened up and said yeah, I experiment but don't make it a habit or do it often. I explained that the Vegas trip is something I had planned on letting loose for, and I did come prepared. She told me to go back to her room because they had some cocaine. I went back to the room with the male, and up there he asked me what I thought of his girlfriend. I said she is very sexy and he is a lucky guy. He then asked if I would be interested in having sex with her. He explained it would be nothing gay, he and I wouldn't touch, but we would both make love to her. I of course jumped on the idea. So long story short, the couple from Oklahoma and myself topped the night off with some great sex in their room. Being in Vegas, and having so many options I never did get to do it again which I really wanted to, but just never found the time to get back with them. They did call me several times trying to coordinate another meeting, but we could never make it work. Ever since then, I have thought about that night almost everyday replaying it all in my mind. I know it was a one in a million chance it happened, but would really like to relive that experience. I consider myself a good person, but have always dreamed about having sex in groups. Like MMF or every man's dream FFM, or even a lot of males with one female. I am straight, and have never even had any curiosity to be with another male. Like I said above, I would never want to have my wife find out about my past experience, or know of anything I do outside of our marriage. Does that make me just a cheating asshole? I have tried to be a good husband, but I always end up searching for something on the side. In my mind, searching for swingers might be the way to go now. Someone that I can trust to keep my secret, because my wife doesn't know that I have ever cheated on her. In my mind, swingers are probably safer about sex then most one night stands I would find. My final question is, is searching for another couple to have more or less regular play times with a waste of time for me? I know that most couples would like to have another couple to have fun with, instead of just one guy. Maybe none of this makes sense, but I am trying to figure out what direction I need to go, to both settle my urges, and keep my marriage intact. Thanks in advance for all your help.

Might be better off going the bi route. Really should tell your wife though.