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Even though I don't have a no kissing rule in place for NDN when he plays, I will admit that while I'm ok with him going down on a woman, her going down on him or him having intercourse with her, I get a sick feeling in my stomach when I see him in a passionate kiss with his play partner. I guess it's because when I kiss him I get butterflies and a feeling of total love that washes over me, but with sex it's just pretty much just a way to satisfy a physical need. I'm guessing that's how a lot (if not most) non-kissing couples see it. For them (and me too) a passionate kiss is an expression of deep love. I don't think it's a stupid rule as was stated earlier. No rule is stupid if it's put in place as a way to feel more comfortable and secure. All you have to do is find others with similar rules and there ya go! *just to clarify, I am not responding to this thread as if other posters are talking about me or to me (as was suggested in a recent thread I commented on). I'm just using my own life as an example as I've seen done countless times by others on this board. Thank you.

I agree with moving on...they'll work it out or they won't...and you'll have no input either way... I would send an email telling them how much we appreciated the time we spent with them and that I hoped we had not caused them to be uncomfortable. It'll do two things...1. Show an enormous amount of civility. 2. Make them think about how they handled the situation and hopefully save themselves and others some grief in the future. You should be applauded for how you handled the surprise cum attack Mrs. Synergy... Trace

I took a look at your Swing Lifestyle profile. After reading it, I think that is why you are having this problem. Your profile reads like a husband pimping out his wife. The public pictures are only your wife, nothing of you. I don't think there would be many women interested in you as a couple because your profile comes across as if you're most interested in getting the right guy to do your wife, and the right woman for bi play, than giving anything of yourself to another woman. I'm not surprised you're getting overly-eager men with unenthusiastic wives. LM