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Greetings all, new to the board and glad to be with all of you. A little background, I'm in my early 40s and my wife is in mid-30s. We're both DINKs (double-income no kids), both white with brown hair and eyes (wife is absolutely smokin' hot Spanish gal with the dark hair and eyes with a killer athletic body to boot). We're both "naturists" in that we like to get naked and have a little fun. We've tried out a few nudist resorts but are overall disappointed in that the clientele at such places were about 98% very old and/or very large unappealing people (great personalities, mind you, but definitely NOT something you want to see naked). Our "wild" side dictates we would like to go to a place where there is more of an erotic atmosphere without seeing our naked overweight grandparents ruining the moment. I guess you could call us "soft swingers" in that we love to watch and be with others in intimate moments, but we would never go so far as actually do the "swapping" part. We have yet to be able to do any of this, but we're looking forward to the opportunity someday - if it ever presents itself! We actually went to a swingers club once after reviewing all the "rules" and were made to understand that "no meant no", but apparently some guy there didn't get the memo and was groping my wife's leg after about 5 minutes after talking to him and his wife (even after we told him were weren't there to "swing"), so that experience unfortunately went bust. I should say we have nothing against swingers or swinging - it actually seems they are more within our age group and most aren't 300 pound escapees from the local assisted living centers like you seem to see at every nudist resort. We've been considering a "lifestyle" cruise, but again, since we aren't actual swingers, would we be out of place in such an atmosphere? We love to get naked with everyone and play around - but with each other. Anyone have any experiences on such a cruise? Is there a place for us "soft-swingers"? I know this is long-winded and for that I apologize (and if you're still reading, thank you!). I guess my ultimate question is... is there a place out there for people like us? I know we can't be the only oddballs out there like us... but I'm beginning to think we are!

I'm sorry but I have heard this so many times, and never "once" seen the proof in the puddle. Mrsfun and I have done our research on message boards, medical boards, house parties, swing clubs, personal friends (male and female) even Mrsfun's Gynecologist. I'm not flaming or attacking you in any way, but if there is "something new" I want to know about it. If you wouldn't mind, could you expand on your training by a professional ? Who teaches this and where ? Is this a college or research group? Why would you feel the need to do this ? Help me understand, we don't care if its pee or not. There would be nothing to prove to us, in the way of urine vs other bodily fluid. In fact message boards are the only places we have seen any debate at all. And we have targeted playmates who make the claim they can "get" Mrsfun there... So far in real life, none wanted anything to do with the analysis debate of the fluid. It was always for the Fun, enjoyment and pleasure of it. Why would you say this to a woman. Who obviously is showing signs of some potential health issue ? She said earlier she passed out, and fortunately a neighbor stopped by to assist her. Why would you blow this issue off ? I have stated that Mrsfun has medical phobias, much like the OP in this case. I take that upon myself, as her partner, to help or direct her in any way possible including, emotional support. You might say we are GOOD for each other in so many ways in life. Which was my questioning to the OP, GPHTallCouple, if her partner takes concern of her health seriously. My fear being, that her partner is not promoting better care or concern. No, I don't think blowing off any medical symptom, is for the good. Photos.... Sharing, is caring @ yahoo As stated before by my wife, Mrsfun. No one has felt flamed or the need for explanation/apologies. If there were issues, we would be hashing this out in PM's on my part, or at least I would attempt that first. This is an open discussion board, many who are here come here to learn. Its best to stand your ground with fact, or agree to disagree in a civil manner. No attacks have been provoked so far and thats good. Whats in the best interest at this time, is could the OP in fact, be in any danger after admitting to a few (as far as I'm concerned) medical issues at hand. Its one thing to get off and do the "tuna quivers" for a very short spell. But to an extended period by inducing ? That worries me as much as someone thats into asphyxiation ! I'm sorry, but I wont be the guy who says "don't worry about it, I'm a doctor" on the internets ???? So, lets discuss this. And truly give the best advice we can possibly find for the best interests of the OP I'm not a doctor, nor do I profess anything more than my first responder training. We often watch for shock to develop while someone is suffering heat exhaustion with loss of bodily fluids. So lets step outside the box of what in the puddle, and look at what causes Shock a little closer here. I could quote from my training manual but its easier to grab just a quick "quote" off of the web. I could e mail a doctor or two as well to chime in, but we have a few on board here now also. Lets discuss all of how shock can be defined. There is more to it than just blood loss ? In fact I'm not sure being a doctor you would give this prognosis over the INTERNET to someone you have never seen ? Help me understand... Ok, so supposing all the money my company spent on me for just "first responder training" are you saying what I learned was in vein ? I cant imagine finding a potential person in a passed out manner, eyes rolled back in their head and saying "eh dont worry about them, cant be shock, their not bleeding so here take a drink " What if she is in shock from the loss of fluids ? Drinking alcohol, for one, has a major effect on hydration, compounded by potential factors I asked about earlier. Extended partying, dancing as well as other activities or so many other factors may lead up to this issue. Why would you advise such a thing ? Help me understand Yes it can in my opinion, if there are many other contributing factors. I'm not a doctor, but not having ever met you, I would want the best in this discussion for your safety, as well as your health and well being. If you have questions, ASK. Your doing the right thing by asking, its a start....