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I happen to agree with this 100%. There was a day when I was shocked as hell that my husband put that first add up on CL for a mfm...thought he'd lost his mind! We don't even use swinger dating sites for meeting others-we prefer clubs and swinger parties...the thought of endless back n forth emails, the thought of dinner dating/meeting another couple on that one night you have a sitter and the possibility of nothing clicking... just doesn't sound fun to me at all. The CL responses were very transparent and easy to spot the bots and the "unreal", the cheaters, the flakes or the ones that just "don't get it", the selfish-I can give you what your man can't attitude or just the many who are unable to follow simple instructions. After those were eliminated, to my surprise, there were some great choices left! I'm adventurous/spontaneous type and there wasn't any couples' parties on that Sun. afternoon, we were feeling naughty so I said, ok what the hell, I'll try it. I was blown away by the incredibly positive experience we had that first time and how easy, fast and drama free it was to set up. I gave my hubby a second try at picking out a date on CL...fun again! (at swinger clubs, I am the one who generally sets play up with couples we are interested in-this CL thing is all him until he is down to a handful that he feels I would enjoy) The third time, I was getting nervous and thought he (my husband) couldn't possibly keep "getting lucky" at picking out such quality single men on CL but it was "out of this world" fun and definitely the third was a charm! (so much so we shared our CL secret on a podcast - even though we don't consider it swinging). I saw this thread earlier but I was still in the "I can't believe how lucky we have been and thinking in the back of my mind we were due for a real CL nightmare scenario" mindset. Well, at least 8 experiences over the last year and all great guys and experiences...three of them 'off the charts' great, I can say it isn't just luck. My husband has some skills and there are some real quality guys that use CL - my stereotypical image of running into the greasy, beer bellied guy that sold me the used dresser was proven wrong over and over again. We still prefer playing and socializing with swinging couples but I am definitely down for the occasional naughty CL adventure! Allie