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Hey Now! I resemble that remark. I don't think you have to be 40 to swing or to have the emotional maturity to do so (or the relationship maturity). I do think, however, that you need a certain level of emotional and relationship maturity that I don't see from Mr. idon'tknow. Mr. Idon'tknow, It sounds to me like you are playing mind games with her. Women can't read your mind any more than you can read theirs. If you want her to share her texts then all you have to do is ask (you've proven that). She is willing to share them. It sounds like what you want is for her to walk up to you each day and say "Today he texted me XYZ and then I said, and then he said" and carry on a conversation that sounds like a phone call between two 12 year old girls. From all that you've posted here so far, I don't think that you are ready to swing - as a person or as a couple. You need to do a LOT of work on your relationship and mainly your communication skills. You even admit this in your post. Stop trying to make something happen that shouldn't happen. It almost sounds like she's forced this on you. If that's the case then you guys need to do even ore work on your relationship than I initially would have thought. Swinging will not fix anything. Your relationship is already cracked, and on the way to broken, swinging will be the death of it if you continue in this direction.

Hmm...Well, my very first threesome was 15 years ago. It was a FMF with my long term boyfriend at the time and my best friend. The three of us were very close friends. The threesome was totally unplanned and initiated by me. I had never given any thought to having a threesome before. The three of us had been out partying (we weren't trashed or anything) and had ended up back at my place. My BF and I were having sex in my room and my friend was getting ready for bed--she was staying over because we left her car at the bar. I remember I just suddenly looked at my BF and said "go tell N she can join us." Of course he did! I recall I had one moment of >. Fast forward to present. I met a lovely couple from a swinger site, we did the usual. Exchanged a few e-mails, went out to dinner to size each other up and talk. Decided we had good chemistry and set a play date. It was awesome! Just some thoughts. I think it went so well for a few reasons: 1)If you're going to try to meet people through swinger sites, be clear about what you want in your profile. Be specific. If you're patient, you can find the right person/couple. 2)we sat down and talked before we hit the sheets. What are your boundaries/rules? What do you not like? What will you not do, ever? And then there was some stuff we agreed that we might do eventually, but not yet. strap ons, oh my! lol 3)Suggestion only--if you want to have a good FMF, make sure you don't have two passive women. That will make for a crappy FMF. Someone has to make the first move/be the aggressor. And generally the women are setting the pace. Was I nervous? Hell , no We all know we're there for sex. There's no reason to be coy. I guess I'm a dive right in to the deep end kind of person, though. I'm like this in all aspects of my life.

Hi everyone, I found the board after some pillow talk with my wife late last week. We were tuned up and fantasizing and I told her that I could get off on watching her give herself to another guy. I wasn't really trying to push us into swinging, I hadn't even given it any thought, I was just seeing what gets her revved up and trying to keep things spicy and new, which isn't always easy after 12 years of being with each other. So it was kind of awkward that night, and we talked the next day about it when we weren't drunk. She seemed pretty shocked that night, but when we talked later she said she wasn't freaked out. I told her it was a fantasy that has rattled around my brain, but I wasn't pushing her to do anything. I also didn't deny that I would be open to the possibility if she was into it. She said she didn't think it was a good idea, that it would ruin our relationship, and that it would make it easier for us to justify cheating on each other deceitfully, etc. etc. All common and reasonable worries, I'm sure. Anyway, long story short - that was a week ago. She has shown absolutely zero sex drive since then, which isn't like her, and she hasn't been nearly as affectionate or playful. Last night she came down stairs from a dead sleep and I had my pants around my ankles taking care of myself and she got upset about me masturbating! Called me a "weirdo". Mind you, she's caught masturbating at least a dozen times in a dozen years, and never had any reaction other than to laugh at my horny ass and either ignore or help, as her mood has struck her. Sorry this is so long, but I'm looking for advice. Did I make a mistake in letting the genie out of the bottle? Can't put it back in now, right? Anyone else experience anything like this?

My first threesome was a MFF, let's just say I couldn't stay hard for long lol, It's very sexy but I don't have the stamina for two women. Was with an ex girlfriend and one of her friends. My first MFM was a bit better, with my last ex girlfriend I struggled to stay hard when I was underneath her as there's not a lot of movement friction while the other guy was on top doing her anally, was a guy from the internet. Have had a few MFM threesomes with my current girlfriend.