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I agree that what parents/Adults do on their time is really none of their children's business. Especially if they also interact with their playmates in the vanilla world (i.e. family barbecues, parties, etc.). That is just asking for trouble, for them and their kids. Them because, let's face it, unless it is something they don't want their parents to find out, kids are hard pressed not to tell a secret to their BFF(s). And then their BFFs will tell their BFFs and so on, until somewhere down the telephone game line, it happens across a child whose parents are not swingers, and then Kaboom! for their kids because when the telephone game hits the wrong kids, they are going to have a hard time in their social groups, especially in the teen years (those little buggers can be really cruel and relentless). We had a situation (since we haven't had the opportunity to meet the right couple to be more than friends with) where our teenage daughter (late teens) discovered a few adult toys by accident. That talk kind of went like: "We are older, yes, but we are not dead, and these toys just help add a little spice or fun to keep our physical relationship fresh and exciting". Upon which, she said, "Oh, I knew what it was.. my friend (when she was in 5th grade at the time)used to sneak her mom's out and run into the bedroom and say see what I found in my moms room! So i assume it is pretty common". Fortunately she didn't discover the whips chains and leather mask.... lol just kidding we're not into BDSM (not that there is something wrong with that, just not our bag).

1. Congratulations on your successful recovery from open heart surgery! 2. The scar will fade. It will take about a year to reach maturity. There is an inflammatory phase--where it will stay red and a bit angry looking. There is a fibroproliferative phase where scar tissue continues to be laid down--this goes on for months. There is a remodeling phase that goes out to about a year. Keep the sun off of it this spring and summer and fall if you want the scar to fade to the most minimal appearance. SPF as high as you can find. And a t-shirt. 3. We medical types have our own rituals--guessing the operation from the scar. We go to a variety of nude resorts and LS activities. It is the rare person who has not had this or that operation. We think of those scars as "proof of life". 4. Mrs. FL has a long scar on her upper arm. Looks like a shark bite. She's a melanoma survivor. Me, I have a long scar on the back of my neck. Cervical spine decompression. No one cares. Really. Indeed, survival, recovery and getting back in the game is the best story you will ever tell.

For him: not so much as hear, but love when she orgasms and it is so good her eyes roll back into her head, as she slowly closes her eye lids. Would just be creepy if she kept her eyes open. lol. This is usually accompanied by short moans (or groans depending on how hard). Also, when she says she needs a break to catch her breath, even though he is the one doing the driving. For her: Also not so much as hear, but when we start a tender kiss and it gets more passionate and heated quickly. Gives me shivers and usually follows by us quickly disrobing to a point of at least enough to make things happen. Also the way his shoulder muscles tense up when he is on top and orgasms. Plus the grunts that sometimes accompany his orgasm.

When Mrs. cplnuswing is first penetrated, there is usually a short, sharp breath intake and a quiet moan which is accompanied by her eyes getting big and wide. I never get tired of that I was standing around casually chatting and flirting with a woman one time and she leaned in for a kiss and sort of out of the blue said "I want you to fill my mouth with your cum". It wasn't the words as much as it was the sudden and unexpected move from 2 to 10 and the husky voice the message was delivered in.

I will add more of my thoughts later but for now, briefly: • Yes, this is a reason for concern. • You are not the reason for the problem.

That kind of small-mindedness really grinds my gears, when people will so quickly judge something they think they know about. Do they know everything? Nope, and they don't care. They know "enough". We're from a pretty conservative part of the world. Not quite as extreme as the bible belt, but certain things just aren't discussed around those parts. Threesomes are one of them. I don't think people are necessarily naive or inexperienced, but nobody would admit to it on pain of death. I don't think I could live in a part of the world where my people took it upon themselves to "correct" you like that, essentially shoving their belief system down your throat. Hopefully in time swinging will become better accepted and not so stigmatized.

That spells trouble big time. Like a stick of dynamite one hell of a big blow up.

Persistence in just about anything is almost a requirement...

Our pathway into the LS came from going to a nationally accredited nudist resort in Castro Valley, California. We didn't go there expecting to get laid. Far from that, Mrs Afterwork is well known to have said, "a nudist camp, the next thing you will want to do is group sex!" Mr Afterwork is also well known to have said, "not at all, it is just a place to camp and they control who comes in there unlike the creepy state park campsites." Certainly the national associations promote a family friendly place and yet it has a population that is made up of a far more couples than families. We were young and stupid...and certainly naive. We thought how neat it was that so many of the folks tended to group their tents together way up in their secluded campsite. How community of them and how friendly. Really looking out for each other. We took to the nudism like ducks to water. Never worried about getting an erection, uh well until we met a couple that was out to seduce us. That is a whole story of a ten month effort on their part to finally bust our cherries. But later we discovered that several couples (once they gain confidence in you) can and do suggest after hours partying that certainly becomes full swap. Another thing, the nudists cannot be nude all the time at the resorts. Weather, time constraints, periods, work effort, etc, etc, means that a lot of investment to travel to the resorts can end up not having the same result. However most of the nudists that you meet will either invite you to their house or you ask them to yours. We have attended several nudists "house parties" with most of them ending up as LS parties as the crowd thins. We mentioned one other way to enjoy nudism without going to a nudist resort. Make a private place at your home and invite friends over. Be quirky, and post a sign. NO TEXTILES ALLOWED IN HOT TUB. Hey, if they want to enjoy the tub, they will go nude. Statistically, once they go nude they either freak out and scream out of there or they just get relaxed and wonder why they every wore a suit in a hot tub. The next step is to "please excuse and physical reactions by the guys (generally offered by the hostess) sporting erections while enjoying the tub....they can't help it anymore that the ladies have hard nipples. Sorry guys, if we ladies get wet, you just won't be able to tell, ha ha. The tub is just so relaxing...." We have seen this lead to otherwise calm, stated folks, start making out right in front of you. That would be your clue to do likewise. Sometimes that leads to soft swap, maybe a little exhibitionism of oral sex switching back and forth from your guests changing positions to enjoy each other; and then sometimes a spontaneous swap of trading with the hosting couple. Hey, the nudist resorts will have folks that want to swing. Still takes an investment to find out who. Then you have to be really careful that you are snagging onto an STD...use safe sex. We have been at this sense the 70's and have found that we like to know more about the folks before we jump their bones. We sort of like the use of our swimming pool or hot tub to use as a hurdle to see just "how relaxed a couple might be" to be involved in a sexually tone situation. Nudity, after all, in a private environment implies a sexuality...does it not? (no answer required, just nod your head yes). Real surprise for us was when a neighbor and his wife watched us receive a hot tub for our back yard. They were immediately extending their own self invitations to come enjoy the hot tub. We said no problem, just we don't allow textiles in the tub. They didn't even look at each other and just replied, "Best way." They were there for the first use of the tub and before the night was over we had fucked each other in so many configurations. Amazing. They had been our neighbors for years and we had no idea that they wanted to swing. They did later admit, that they thought we might be swingers as they had seen our really close friends come over for all nighters several times a month. Good luck with your search....but consider making your own intimate resort.