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We met a terrific couple this weekend. We had an easy four way match. Forgot about the last couple entirely. Their loss. I don't mind if I or we get rejected. It's happened a lot in our lifestyle career. I (we) just don't need to find out who does not like who and why. It's hurtful. Just think about it if you do this.

Hi all. My wife and I don't swing (yet) but we have talked about it a decent amount. She's had more partners before getting married than I did and sometimes talks about how she misses random hookups at bars. It really turns me on thinking of her fucking another guy and I think I'd be ok with it. Those husbands that have done this, have you been in the same room watching? Did you take part or just observe? Just curious about what's normal or not.

Since you included a picture of the vehicle in question, as a reward we are answering your request. and Seems kind of redundant. Maybe just one line about how you both like the same...or is it really even necessary. Usually another classy couple would include that. Also, it would be nice to include more about the two of you. What you like to do so that you will all hopefully share some common interests. Low mileage = relative newbies. If you do have some experience you should say that as well so that others know that you've 'been around the block' before. Limits the 'drama' issue knowing that you've already crossed this hurdle (if you have). Other than that, adding more substance would be helpful in determining if there is a possibility of a match (since you are looking for FWB instead of just sex). Good luck!

We kinda liked the profile. It is fun and light. On the other hand, we are newbies, so what do we know? That picture in your last post wouldn't hurt either! Hot!!!

I would advise you not to lose hope, and to keep trying. Both of us have certainly had unsatisfying experiences in which the other party is not particularly interested in our pleasure. However, more often than not, the new men with whom I have been have taken the time to learn my likes and made every effort to maximize my pleasure. Similarly, I reciprocate. My husband also says that his own satisfaction is enhanced when he is attuned to his partner's needs and sees that he is giving her the most pleasure possible.

On the other hand it does make you stand out like a fun couple I'm sure others will add more input. "SW PA Couple" has a more experienced insight on profiles then we do (We are still newbies) But let us know if you have received an increase on interested couples. Wish you both the best of luck!

A lot of people confuse rudeness with honesty and that's unfortunate. OTOH, some people just manage to unintentionally say exactly the wrong thing. I've personally, inadvertently, insulted at least two people this week because my choice of phrasing hit a hot button for them. We don't always say the right thing at the right time and it can cause bad feeling. I'm not excusing it, either in the fellow you where dealing with or for myself. I'm just saying, it happens. A friend of mine calls it "opening mouth to change feet." Sometimes, we just need to rise above. If it's someone you plan on dealing with again, be honest and say "the way you said that hurt my feelings" ... then build on how they reply. If it's someone you will never deal with again, bitch about it a little and then move on. Life's too short to let the bastards drag you down.

I am so hot for it.. DP - when the guys are not to big!

Unfortunately, we forget that not all people really know how to behave. For what ever the reason, it just isn't there. Very admirable that you have such a wonderful attribute to your character. It's almost mythical to possess a trait such as tact. I am sorry that you felt the sting of such an ugly remark. Seems as if you made out like a bandit in the end. From the reaction of the other couple, I would dare to say it wouldn't have been everything you wanted it to be anyways. Keep your chin up.

I'll admit to being a sensitive Snowflake. But why do you have to point out the weak link and make one out of four people feel that they are the reason this foursome will not continue? Why not say we are all not a match and leave it at that. Honesty sounds nice but not at expense of unnecessarily hurting feelings. We are careful not to pin the tail on the donkey.

I appreciate your honesty. But just because you can take rejection well doesn't mean the vast majority can. Why not be caring in this situation and think of others? If they are thick skinned like you, then they would probably ask why, and then I would agree to give them the honest reasons. If they take it personal... well they shouldn't have asked. But at least you gave them an option. My husband would probably agree with you, but I tend to be more caring of others feelings.

I'm fine with the idea of meeting someplace neutral without expectations... but someone's home isn't someplace neutral.

Yes it would. Diplomacy and courtesy seem not to be taught in school.

It started with the three of us on the bed together. Then I got off the bed to give them more room to play. Watching was just as exciting as being there. I became hooked on watching. Over time I left the room so they could play in private without me watching. She loved me doing that and loved me for letting her do it. She said she had her best sex with him without me being there and watching. I'll stay in the room with her if its someone new. Once we can trust him I'll leave the room so she can let herself go with him.

I agree with the OP, there is no 'normal'. In fact, it's one of our least favorite words. We have done MFM vs MFMF at about a 10:1 ratio over the years. I enjoy watching her and I generally join in during playtime. Just recently, at a club, she was with a large number of guys over the course of an evening. Nothing quite like Mrs. Vaitape asking a guy that had just come up to us to 'Do you want to fuck me?'. What fun.

I love watching my wife fucking another guy. It's one of favorite aspects of swinging. I like to watch and she loves to perform for an audience. We've had times where I watch and she plays and I fuck her afterward. We've done threesomes, where the other guy and I play with her together. We've had times were she and I play and other people watch. We've had times when she goes out and plays by herself then comes home and tells me all the details while she and I play. Lots of fun all around. In short, there are a lot of options in swinging and very little "normal." What is key is making sure that everyone involved understands the rules, expectations and boundaries and abides by them in good faith.

i love it... so hot

It has never an issue for us. If I am done I can catch a break an clean myself a little bit with some baby wipes or if is the case I can go to the toilet and sit for a minute to allow the semen to exit me. Sometimes I can loan a hand and participate a little bit with the other couple, it depends.

We never did DVP but love VA-DP, usually I am laying with her on top and the other male penetrates her ass. When we get into the same rythm it is fantastic, and the feeling of the other cock in her separated from mine by a very thin membrane makes us both cum intensely. We have a fwb whose cock is thin and long and it is very well suited for DP ass-fucking, besides the fact that with him it is always bareback, what is a plus for her.