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Condoms are extremely useful in the prevention of HIV. They do offer some protection against even skin to skin sti's like HPV and herpes. Saying that condoms are basically useless is misleading. There are research studies that give statistics for reduction of transmission for many diseases. Just because you are not eliminating risk completely doesn't mean you should throw all caution to the wind.

Having had sex with our long time real friends, I would certainly advice to tread very very carefully - there are no u-turns. We have had difficulty & things have been stressful ever since - however, we are trying to patch things up and hopefully we are on the path to recovery but only time will tell. If we had to do it over again - I would take a different path!

We will be waiting...

Ok, I know this thread is pretty much over, and congratulations njbm. I know exactly how you were feeling about the long line of rejections, flakes, and weirdos, we have been through the same thing same thing since getting into the LS (Feb 2017). Things seriously turned around this past weekend. We went to a local club we had never been to and it was awesome!!! Lots of great people and literally had to choose between two different couples to play with, it will turn around for you and then your confidence will soar. Ok, now for a clarification on the OP. The way I read that was that they had invited you to meet them at the beach, but you were interested in riding there with them in the same car. Is that what you were asking? IF indeed that is what you were asking, I would have simply said something like, "Hey how would you guys like to ride together to the beach, we could save gas and have a good opportunity to visit." Then if yes you just have to work out who is driving.

Fist off, my wife has said multiple times that she LOVES the freedom to fuck other people. Second, yes I have always been in the same room when she fucks someone else, that is our arrangement as of right now. I LOVE watching her fuck! It is like watching live porn, but with an emotional connection with the girl! There is a huge mix of emotions, but if you are in the right mindset about it going into it, it is the biggest turn on ever!! Third, yes, every time my wife has fucked someone else, at some point, I have taken part. I have had the other guy watch us fuck afterwards and that was super sexy and a huge turn on! The bottom line is this, yes it is a big decision to make, and communication is key, you will be apprehensive no matter what, you have to talk, talk, talk with you wife before, during and after and you have to agree going into the experience that you will NOT hold it against her EVER...remember that, most likely, you were the one that instigated this idea, so do not get mad at her if it doesn't go exactly as expected. Think of it as an adventure that you and your wife are about to embark on, and for bad or good, it is something that you guys will agree to take a chance on and experience together and remember forever! That is what marriage is about isn't it? Experiencing new and exciting adventures together? It should be about creating fun and memorable memories together with the underling thought always being that you love each other, and will be together forever!!!

Even if the OP has no intention of becoming a swinger the obvious anger, repeated vulgarity and insults are not called for.