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We do drinks and appetizers. 45 minutes and goodbye if we are not interested...that's how we roll. Invite you over to play without a vanilla meet - no way.

I would agree that just drinks or coffee is a lot easier, a dinner can be a loooong time with people there is no obvious connection with. Nobody should feel rushed or put out by the lifestyle. I'm sure you have plenty of opportunities with people who will proceed at your pace, and isn't just looking for a place to party because they have kids and can't host and can't afford a hotel........

My first taste of the lifestyle was winter 2014. A couple I'd befriended had invited me over to hang for a night. Expecting nothing I brought a guy friend along. Somewhere after a few drinks, the girl "madi" mentioned wanting to know what it was like to fuck me. He was for it, so was I, but there was still my friend, who also joined in on the mind changing bi foursome we had. I was slightly bigger than average, my friend was at least 7" and to our surprise the husband of the girl was easily 9-10". And her being just 5'2 and 115 made it better. When we finished she was well worn out and still had cum on her. I remember thinking her husband was so lucky and should let her go loose like that more. Say once a month or whatever. She gave the best head and got a facial or two as a result. And hey if she can take it then she deserves it. Since then I've been hooked and have tried mmf dvp/dp threesome with a dvp creampie, bi couple foursomes, as well as a few gay/bi situations that i continued, turns out I like giving head lol. Lately ideas like nude beaches and nude/sex friendly resorts, etc.

Thanks for the insight GoldCoCouple, it's definitely some food for thought. Well, were headed out to dinner, hope we all get along. I'm pretty excited for another group experience, feels almost like dating again

Yes. I think that IS kind of odd. They might just want to get down to business but I/we prefer some time to get to know them first in a nonsexual way. They might have limited time or resources. Host where? In a motel/hotel? NO WAY in your house!

Well, I'm coming up on 30 years of going to Freedom Acres here in So Cal, and I can say it's pretty much the same good club now that it was then and the folk there are about the same. We must be lucky. Some things have changed, gone is smoking inside, the big indoor hot tub, and most everyone we've met there over the years. It seems the regulars only last about 3 years then gone. Back then they were only open on Saturday night, now they're open 5 nights with Single Guy Sundays which we mostly go to 'cos it stars early and ends early, so folks party earlier. It's good for us folks with kids. I'm also surprised that the single guys have never been a problem there. What has changed is viagra and condoms. 30 years ago condoms were not so prevalent and of course no viagra. Now with the combination of those two, I see guys going at it for what seems like hours. That never happened "back in the day"®.

Hello, here is my insight as the "extra guy". First, I sense that you are not quite comfortable with alone time so I would not have that happen. If you are ok with alone time, sometimes it is better for the guys to be alone first. I have had some very interesting conversations with the husband that were very helpful...like, she really likes this....if you want to squirt,do this, are you good doing? She really gets hot and wet etc etc. If there is only alone time with the extra guy and her or you start to feel left out, have a code word between the two of you. Establish trust slowly. Us guys know we are less than a dime a dozen.....Yep. It pays to be a humble guy. The more experienced I get, the better I can read both the wife and hubby. Are they on the same page? If not, I normally say something like "you are both very attractive but I don't want to create any drama so I am stepping awhile" This is never done DEAR JOHN style but more like I apologize for not creating "the magic". I enjoy MFM because DVP is so awesome and you all need to work together and trust each other for that to succeed and when it takes a few tries and everyone laughs, you know it is good. I hope that makes sense. Please let me know how it works out and if this was helpful.

There are all kinds of swingers. Wham bammers is what you had. Some are one and done. We like the friend route. We are starting to find that we are becoming vanilla friends with some of our swing partners and leaving the playing behind.

Hidden Beach Resort 7/29-8/7/17 The Canadian couple we met, Sue and Jeff, were good dates. Rob went around to their room door 3 doors down from ours and picked Sue up for dinner at & PM. He wore sandals, no bottoms and one of his dragon Tommy Bahama shirts. Later when I saw Sue and Rob across the restaurant, she was wearing sandals, and a pareo (sarong). She had tied it around her waist and was topless. Dressing for dinner at a nude resort is always interesting. A minute after Rob left Jeff was at our swim up patio door to pick me up. I had the black lace lingerie on that shows in the photos we have posted. Jeff had a crazy red and white Hawaiian shirt on, sandals and that was about it. Soon after we took a table for two at the other end of the restaurant, I removed my lace bra to be topless too. I checked the bra with the waiter(LOL) to pick up later and dined topless. Jeff walked over to the towel shelves and got two towels and put them on our chair seats (a gentleman). Jeff and I ordered off the menu, talked, laughed and enjoyed the evening. We finished eating before Sue and Rob. That’s not surprising because Rob often orders grilled shrimp that are are not on the menu. Jeff and I walked the circuit around the resort talking to kill time before going to the Moonlight Club about a quarter to 9 to be ready for the Maya Dancer show. We had a table for two in front of the stage when I noticed Sue and Rob come in. The chairs and tables were pretty much all taken, so Sue and Rob took their seats on the red bench seating back along the wall. Once again as people came into the club, they all picked up fresh towels to sit on. Gotta love a nice upscale resort. Check the photos out that we have posted of the Moonlight club. Other guests were undressed or dressed in everything from nude to dressy casual if they had been to dinner next door at the sister resort. (We do like the Karisma Chain of El Dorado Hotels). The Maya dancer show was not too good but only about 40 minutes long, but another couple rounds of white wine went down well. I had my hand on Jeff’s thigh a couple times and “happened” to “accidentally” brush his cock...very nice. Rob’s in longer but Jeff’s is definitely thicker/wider. When the Maya show was over the DJ started playing dance music. Rob went up and asked for some better dance music, which finally the DJ played. Many of the guests started leaving after the show and by 10:30 PM there was a table with two couples in the middle of the room, Sue and Rob on the bench seating and Jeff and me at a table close to the stage and dance floor. When Sue and Rob came past us going to the dance floor, they were both nude wearing only sandals and some jewelry. Jeff and I joined them on the dance floor and chatted each other up and decided this was going to be a “really fun” evening. Jeff and I sat down again to finish our drinks and watch Sue and Rob. With my hand on Jeff’s cock, it was getting a rise so he moved his hand to my lap. When I spread my legs a bit, he moved right in to finger my pussy gently. As Rob and Sue left the dance floor, I noticed he had 2/3 of an erection. Generally, he is in better control (LOL). When they got back to their bench seat area, they were all over each other. The bartender and the other two couples could have cared less that Sue and Rob were making out and feeling each other up big time. Rob had a huge erection out in front of everyone that she was feeling. I think lifestyle activities are probably tolerated well as long as people don’t complain and it’s not blatant during the day. Jeff and I got up to leave. Jeff stopped and told Sue and Rob “we’ll see you kids later”. Jeff and I headed back to my room to really get to know each other. Later I found out that Rob and Sue left the Moonlight and walked back to Sue and Jeff’s room. She got a little zip bag with condoms and lube to take way to the end of the resort to a beach bed next to the new high rise. On a beach bed with a blue light shining down, waves crashing, 3/4 full moon, Rob was soon banging Sue. He said he mentioned that two security guys (white shirts, pith helmets) were 10 steps away. He said Sue really went wild and fucked him right back. When they were done, Rob put his used condom in a folded used towel and left all the towels on the beach bed. Rob said he and Sue had to walk right past the security men, saying hi. Evidently, sex on the beach beds is accepted if late and private. Jeff and I were on our bed and I was riding him cowgirl with the patio sheer curtains partly open. I noticed Sue and Rob standing on the patio and tried to give them a really good show. I asked Jeff to finish up doggie style and what a thrill it was especially with Sue and Rob at the patio door watching. When Jeff and I were done, Sue and Rob came in and we all visited for a bit, planning to get together at dinner and the Moonlight the next night, which as their last night. We really like Jeff and Sue as a couple!!!! It’s is really special when everyone get along with each other so well. Better Run!!! Be sure to look at the Moonlight Club photos in with our photos. Julie

It started with the three of us on the bed together. Then I got off the bed to give them more room to play. Watching was just as exciting as being there. I became hooked on watching. Over time I left the room so they could play in private without me watching. She loved me doing that and loved me for letting her do it. She said she had her best sex with him without me being there and watching. I'll stay in the room with her if its someone new. Once we can trust him I'll leave the room so she can let herself go with him.

It is super sexy seeing your wife with someone else, I have never sat back and just watched. I have always participated in the action, we have only did MFM 2 times but both were very enjoyable. My wife was so turned on that when we tried dp she took the other guys dick in her ass so easily. But we also role play her with other guys at home. I write spicy sex stories for her and then I blind fold her while she rides the dildo and I read her the story she had some good orgasms

Now every time I've watched my wonderful wife having sex with another man, I've been playing with his wife. But, honestly, I've enjoyed watching her/them as much as I've enjoyed his wife. She doesn't want to play anymore but, if she did, I think I'd want to explore threesomes with a guy and us more than couples swap. Enjoying another woman is, of course, great but it was rather distracting too.

(TL;DR : we had a perfect 4th date, MFM) So, after three dates with a wonderful couple, we had our first MFM threesome last weekend. One month ago, we have met a very nice single man online. To be precise: he is a half of a couple and has a hall pass. This story proved to be genuine, she even is the photographer for his (very nice) profile pics. In a spur of the moment, MsDiscover then had a solo vanilla (more or less) date with him, to test the waters. She still liked him so we agreed to have a date in the near future. Another event took place around the same time: my birtday. And my girl decided to give me a weekend away in hotel and two weeks ago she told me part of that weekend would be this threesome. Even after all those years, she can totally surprise me. Last Saturday started with packing all the luggage and we did some shopping. We really like hotel dates, no issues with kids and unplanned visits and we can leave all the mess behind. At the other hand: a date at home would mean everything is available in the fridge, kitchen or whatever. Now we were dealing with a suitcase with mineral water, juices, glasses, cups, nuts, cookies, chocolates and what not We left home, brought the kids to the grandparents and off we were. MsD was driving and smiling, knowing I did not know what to expect. We arrived at a very nice luxurious hotel in The Hague and checked in. The room was spacious and classy. We prepared ourselves and the room for the date. Wine, juices, beer, water in the fridge. The rest on the table. Lubes, toys and condoms on the nightstands. She took a quick shower and got that last shave. Then I took a shower myself and when I returned to the room, I was met by another pleasant surprise. MsD looked stunning. She was dressed in a black lace corset, which accentuated her nice curves. Nice stockings on her beautiful long legs. Hair topped up, a silver necklace and her nicest silver earrings. Finally she put on a simple but beautiful little black dress and high heels. I was dressed in a black suit, pink shirt and tie and new black shoes. It already was the best birthday party ever! He whatsapped in our group he had arrived and I went to the lobby to meet him. He is a man who loves casual cloths but to surprise MsD he was dressed in a black suit and tie this evening. We were both smiling and a bit nervous when we walked to the room. "Darling, we have a guest", I announced when I entered the room. He was pleasantly surprised when he saw MsD in her little black dress and greeted her. She kissed him and laughed and complimented him on his suit. It broke the ice and we chatted a bit. He even brought me a present, a box of expensive chocolates his wife bought for me & the occasion. Like we already knew from former dates, it was tough for us to switch from vanilla chatting to sexy time but when she and I stood up, me behind her massaging her shoulders, he took the hint and started to kiss her and touching her amazing body. When he touched her legs and thighs and moved up, he discovered she was not wearing anything underneath and started to discover her bare pussy. And he did that well, I felt how she started to be weak in her knees. Button for button, strap for strap, he undid her corset and helped her out of her stockings. A bit faster as expected, we imagined to first enjoy each other while she would be partly dressed in her beautiful lingerie, but we were all too horny to care at this point anyway. And so he and I quickly undressed too. Now she was naked, standing between two naked tall men, a rock-hard dick in each hand. Stroking, caressing, teasing. I took a step back to give them more space to discover each other. She caressed his dick and I handed him a condom. She is not very fond of blowjobs, only did that to me a few times in the last 13 years, so both he and I were very surprised when helped him putting on the condom, bended over and started to lick him. I started to caress her pussy and found out she was already very very wet. I also took a condom and we changed position, she standing bent over between us, he is feeling up her pussy and ass, she is giving me a blowjob. An amazing sight. As it became harder and harder for her to keep on her feet, she leaded us over to the king-size bed. Lying on her back as a princess, a man on each side. Was this how I always had pictured how it would be? You bet it was. Even better than I ever could have imagined. I really looked forward to massage her, together with him. Four hands all over her beautiful body. A fantasy we had shared for so many years. I stroked her hair, her cheeks, kissing her, whispering how much I loved her. Meanwhile, he started to give her oral, discovering her pussy with his tongue. I watched how her expression changed, how she started to blush and how her eyes seems to darken. Away were the plans of a slow massage. Suddenly he got up, positioned herself between her legs and placed his dick onto her pussy. With one swift move, he impaled her. She gasped for air and tried to meet his trust. It was a feeling of pleasure mixed with pain for her but when I looked up in her eyes, I only saw lust so I was reassured. I got very horny myself too, it was so erotic to see another dick in her for the very first time. Any regrets about how fast this went were gone and I gave myself over to this emotional roller coaster. He alternated between fucking her hard and skillfully giving her oral, meanwhile I caressed her tits and clit. At a point, I left the bed and took a chair to watch this great show. I never had felt such strong and wonderful emotions, to see and hear how she enjoyed it all. After she climaxed, they paused for a while. He and I started to finger her pussy and ass, three, four fingers. My fingers, his fingers. Deep in her ass or massaging her lips. Then she got on her knees. He was in front of her, she took him in her mouth again, licking and stroking his cock and balls. I positioned myself behind her and pushed my dick in her cunt. She felt so open and warm, never experienced her like this. His large dick really had made a difference. And I liked that. She kept blowing him, I fucked her from behind, massaging her ass and back. At one point, I asked him if he wanted to switch positions. I remember how I thought how strange but wonderful it felt to offer another man to fuck my girl. I pulled out my dick and he replaced me quickly and started to fuck her hard from doggy style. He then turned her over and fucked her missionary for a while, her legs on his shoulders to give him full access. Her head was over the edge of the bed and I stood next to her. She started to jerk my now bare dick, all while she was fucked by him. And I had a hard time not to come all over her right there when I saw all that lust in her face. So I backed down a bit laid myself next to her. She was on her knees again and gave me a perfect view of her pussy being pounded mercilessly. I massaged her clit and she quickly came again. We paused again and he took a shower. We drank some wine, beer and juices. The three of us in one bed, completely at ease like we know each other for years. Not for four weeks. I started to massage her tits again, her nipples getting harder with each stroke. He positioned himself between her thighs again and pushes his dick in her again. She raised her legs, I grabbed them and hold them close to her chest to give him maximum access and to pin her down. She moaned loudly, while saying "Oh, you do me so good!" to him. I offered her my dick and she started to suck me again. After fucking her like this for a while, he took a break to drink some water and I asked her for a 69. She lowered herself on my face and I started to lick her while she took care of my dick. I was amazed how she felt now, I never saw her pussy so swollen and opened. I started to lick her clit and she started to moan again. When I offered him to fuck her in that position, he was hesitant at first but I imagine it was the sight of her lustful body that pulled him over this threshold and from very very close I saw how his dick glided into her cunt again, pushing out lots of liquids as I could feel on my face. It was the hottest thing I had ever done and it felt amazingly good. He then switched to anal but this was a bit too quick. She nearly passed out from the pain and we had to stop. At this point, we were all very sweaty. Time to take a shower and as a good host I offered them to shower together. I knew how she would love that. And she did, although he was a bit shy since this was the first time he did this. When finished, they returned to the room and I took a shower myself. When I returned too, we all started to fuck again for a good hour, in several positions. Anal proved to be too painful for her after the mishap earlier on, but we had a terrific time nevertheless. After another break, they were laying next to each other, her head against his chest, chatting about swinging and experiences and stuff. His cock was still hard, covered in a hideous but funny green condom. She started to stroke him, tantric style. Slowly, touching, stroking, for over half an hour. Meanwhile, I was behind her and stroked her labia and clit. Again, I felt how incredibly swollen and wet she was. I presumed that until this date, he was always the guest that had to preform, to be the bull. This time, we wanted to give him equal pleasure and he seemed to had a difficult time to let it all go, to let go of trying to control it all. And to also focus on himself. But of course in the end she managed to let hem float away in his feelings and brought him to an orgasm. When they both calmed down, I entered her cunt bare and started to fuck her hard from behind, spooning. She came immediately, gushing all over my balls and legs. It did not take long to shoot my first load deep in her but I kept on fucking her. After a while I came for the second time and collapsed. Liquids everywhere. After another shower, we rested a bit on the bed, chatting and eating nuts, drinking wine and beer. He got dressed and left after a while, we looked out of the window into the dark night together to see him leaving in his little red car. Exhausted, we felt into a deep sleep together in each others arms. She woke me at 7 am the next morning to have the most amazing re-connection sex until we had to check out at 11. It was an amazing date.

Stop it you guys! You're making me wet! LOL Geez, it's like a porn scene on this thread.... As you may have guessed, I LOVE watching men together, whether I am invited to join or just watch. It's the fascination of not having the same body parts. I can't do the same things they can, so it's interesting and hot as hell!

I have implants, I certainly prefer girls with big boobs, either natural or with implants. I have had a lot of fun since I decided to get the operation