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This reminds me of a situation that happened at our local swing club. There was a couple who were regulars at our club. The couple's daughter and her husband were home for Thanksgiving and decided to go to check out the local swing club. They walked in , paid there admission fee and settled at the bar to have a coke (BYOB). After a while the decided to disrobe and go into the play area. At this moment the daughter realized that Mom and Dad where in the play area getting it on with another couple. Her mother saw daughter and stopped everything she was doing. Mom alerted Dad and he stopped what he was doing. Needless to say daughter was shocked (so was Mom and Dad). Daughter and Husband and Mom and Dad quickly got there clothes and left together. While this sounds like an urban legend (I am sure every club has a story like this) several long time members of the club swear this happened. The funny thing about this story is that the next time the club was open all four where at the club having fun.

Yes, very common for us and we have a paid membership. KiK is way more convenient than SLS and allows all parties to chat.

several with the same single man stick out. one, is The time that we tried double penetration with mild success, I was straddling crazed as he entered my pussy,J came up between crazed knees and began massaging my ass and squeezed out some lube rubbing it in. I flinched at first when he touch my asshole as I had not done anal successfully yet but he was gentle and slow and waiting for me to get into the sensation crazed was creating. when he knew I was aptly distracted, he just plunged right in!!!I didn't have time to be scared, I only felt...extremely full. we moved together in tandem for a bit then I got a little too carried away and crazed slipped free. J just continued to move in my ass and crazed was still sliding between my lips with every thrust he hit my clit when he senses that J was almost there, and so was he, crazed reached up and squeezed my nipples sending me over the edge we all came together and it was very very memorable. Crazed may decide to chime in as well, but I know he has told me that one thing that made it so hot for him, is watching both my own and J's reactions to each other while being in such an intimate vantage point.

Requests from SLS members to continue a conversation using a different method are generally made by people who have non-paid memberships. When a member is non-paid, the number of messages that can be exchanged in a day is limited.

We have had a Syb for 22 years. The bar is high. 1. As ladies (and gents!) age, kneeling becomes harder. Syb is not quite the right height on floor or on bed. 2. The best attachments are silicone, much preferred to latex. 3. There ought to be a better way to independently adjust the contact and intensity of clit stimulation other than leaning forward or backwards. 4. If Siri is smart enough to listen to phone numbers and dial them, voice commands ought to be included in Syb. ("Hey Siri, vibration 8!")

We played many times on a first date. We would meet in a bar or other public place and see if there was the requisite chemistry. If there was, one of us would use a code word (something that would fit in a normal conversation, but only if you brought it up.) The other would respond in a code. Example Me: You know, we like to go to the zoo. (This was the initial code.) Her: Yeah, we really do. I love the elephants (if she was agreeable.) -or- I always get grossed out in the reptile exhibit, though (if she had no interest or wanted to think about it). You can make up your own, depending on your interests. If we both loved elephants, it was off to the races.

This is why we say don't waste time with email and texting. The fastest way to find out about a couple is to meet them. Make a date and see if there is anything there. Fakers won't set a date and flakes and assholes will quickly be eliminated. Got to eliminate the chaff from the wheat somehow.

We (especially me) have to remember to be careful what we say and do around vanilla friends. It's very liberating being around other swingers and being able to talk about...well anything. Sex, attraction, whatever. That's not acceptable with vanilla friends...'me and the Ms. were having sex the other day when she did this thing to me...' usually ends up with them looking back with HUGE eyes and shock on their face(s). Trying to 'fix' the situation by saying 'oh, she was just showing me what her boyfriend and girlfriend taught her last weekend' doesn't help at all either. We also find all those clothes that we have to wear rather confining at times with our vanilla friends. Telling a female friend that she looks really hot, especially in front of the Ms. can get some strange reactions as well. All of these are reasons that we have spent so much time trying to find swingers that are friends...with benefits. It's very liberating not to have to worry about what you say...in fact being able to say what you want and be able to openly talk about sex. If only we could be so 'open' with our close vanilla friends...

Cuckolding almost always involves humiliation of the husband. Hotwife may or may not involve humiliation of the husband. Minor difference but until stag and vixen becomes a more recognized term hotwife covers everything that involves the wife having sex with another man while the husband usually doesn't if he likes it or not.

No harm in going out to dinner and talking about erotic adventures!

Interesting. I always thought that my white friends were more open minded than my black friends. Nice to get others opinions about this topic. I agree with you 100%. Have been in many situations that involved me touching or being engaged in acts with other men and never once did I think that it made me or the other guy gay. Just adults having fun.

They did align just last August 21. I hope you did not miss the opportunity. Your next opportunity will not be until 2021.

We are meeting a new to us couple for dinner tomorrow night. Whatever we expect to happen won't happen. I guess that's part of the fun.

We have a 20/20 rule in that we know within 20 seconds to 20 minutes if we'll ever want to be naked with the other couple. If we do, our attitude is "why wait"?. If there is a connection/attraction, will we any of us get any younger, thinner, or sexier if we wait a week or two or three? Why waste an opportunity? Its hard to find a situation where all four people in 2 couples are doable. When it happens, infrequent as it is, we will definitely go for it.

I originally read this thread back when it was originally active and it made me think. After reading this thread I discussed this with my wife. You see we have a rather "complicated" relationship with our doctor. Yes OUR doctor. We share the same doctor, but we also share the same church with the doctor and we are also very good friends with her. We mutually came to the agreement that we would tell our doctor during our last physical, which occurred about a month ago. We were supposed to have our physicals together like last year, but instead ended up having them on the same day a few hours apart. We had agreed that I would be the one to tell her. When I was alone in the room with the Doctor and she was going thru the usual questions about your health etc, she was coming to the end of the process and when she asked if there was anything else, I became very serious and just to make sure she understood that things were fixing to get serious asked her, "I believe it is very important for my doctor to know about anything in my life that could affect my health, would you agree?" Of course she said yes, "so anything we talk about here will stay in this room and you can't tell anyone else?" A little taken aback by the change in tone, said, "yes that's right." And then I asked her if she could leave it out of her notes. She then said that I might have to remind her of it in about 5 years because she would probably forget it. She was wrong. I then told her that we were involved in the "Swinging Lifestyle, do you know what that is? She then said, "think I do, but could you help me be sure." I told her it was partner swapping, then went on to tell her we always practice safe sex with condoms. (A little bit of a fib, we generally don't for oral) This relaxed her a good bit and then we went on to discuss the importance of practicing safe sex which I agree completely with and we discussed us going to the local heath clinic and getting STD screening a couple times a year and she seemed to be much more comfortable after understanding that we actually did kinda "know what we were doing." After the fact we are both very comfortable that we told her and would only have done this in that exact setting with the full knowledge that it was in her official capacity. I guess this just goes to show that some of these very thoughtful conversations on this board can actually affect people's actions.

Great thread ! As this has been my wife's biggest concern since I finally told her my Kink 2 years ago ... Thks for the thread !

I'm always amazed when somebody describes an experience that seems so consistent with our own. Very well described. We had initially met up with our friends in the pool for our first soft play night as a couple, and her first time touching another man in almost ten years. She had to literally get out of the pool and collect herself for a minute when she touched his cock for the first time. Then she was on board and ended up topless between his legs on a pool lounger, same wide-eyed "I'm really doing this" expression. As first she was just touching it, but then he pushed her hair back and she wrapped her lips around it. Every muscle in my body tensed up for the duration. When he came, she missed the last spurt. When she stood up she looked like she was lost in a strange town and wandered around for a moment before we had to break the news that the she had her friend's husband's cum all over her chin. Our first full swap was with that couple the following evening.

You know nothing about us, our experiences, and deserve no reply.

My fiance and I have are new (our very first time) to the lifestyle. We have our first date with a couple that have lots of experience. We are going directly to the couples home and we are very aware that something will happen. I am wondering just what to expect? I am not a shy person but I know that I am going to feel withdrawn and somewhat up tight.........I will need to have a drink or 2or 3 to relax. Can anyone give me any idea of what we may expect?