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Thanks to everyone for their support and for listening. Perhaps he is becoming too enthusiastic for comfort. I confronted him yesterday and his knee-jerk (er, jerk) reaction was to say that I am now in charge of dates and online interaction which is not what I want. I only want to be consulted on when we suggest meeting people or otherwise go out to swing (club, party). I did end up apologizing and I am sure we will talk more about it this weekend. I do tend to be critical and I can see his side too...it's hard for me to want to share our limited time with others and harder to schedule when Saturdays are a variable factor lately (we might know 3-4 days in advance if he's working). I am just frustrated, I suppose. I don't think there's a true underlying issue other than we need to check in before inviting people over or out. I don't want it to be mechanical, but it's going to have to be that way for awhile.

So the wife and I have had about four MMF experiences. I was uncomfortable with it and the guys seemed to be too. She suggested I sit back and enjoy the show next time and she'd take care of me after. While this does seem more appealing than having a cock in front of me during the threesome, I also don't want to feel like a cuck, since we're not into that. So confused...opinions from people with experience?

We are a lightly used couple, about 6 full swap situations, and some soft swap. In every one of the full swap situations, while I was beginning foreplay and eventual intercourse with the other woman. The other man entered my wife and was done in less that 5 minutes. I know she is good, but really? Anyone else run into this issue?

I know many guys who want their girlfriend to swallow their cum. So my question is, guys, how do you feel about doing it the other way--you swallowing the cum of your girlfriend's? And ladies, how do you feel about it?

I was just reading a post in the Situational Help forum and they mentioned experiencing a few "I'll Never" situations. It made me wonder, what are your "I'll Never" situations, the things you say you'll never do.... Or if you've been in a situation and afterwards said "I'll Never do that again!" what was it that you said you'd never do again? Have you ever said that and then made an exception and done it again?

We have been on SLS for about 4 years. We’ve met nice people and we have nice friends from it. But when we look at Who’s on, we cycle through a lot of the same people who are not good matches. We joined SDC to mix it up a little. Is anyone else a little tired of the usual suspects? Not that we are perfect or God’s gift. And we are lucky to live in the highly populated NYC metro area. But....

We have played with a couple a few times, but Mr says that although he likes the other wife, he's not that into her sexually. From what I can tell they are both into us and I'm into them. I feel that if we are not turning down other opportunities then it's ok to play with them occasionally, but he says that he would be 'taking one for the team' and that I 'already owe him' from our previous encounters. The more I try to explain my reasonings, the more he digs his heals in and threatens to never play with them again. I feel super frustrated; I feel like he's cock blocking me, especially when there are no other options for an upcoming weekend. Am I overreacting? I feel like the roles wouldn't be reversed, as if I wanted to go out and play I would still enjoy spending time with someone who was into me, I enjoy the social aspect a lot more than he does too. I know it shouldn't ask him to be with people he's not into, but he's a lot pickier than me it turns out! I feel like he has all the power...

A discussion question that I had with a friend of mine the other day brought up an interesting topic which I figure would be fun to talk about... There really should be differing "levels" of bisexuality for people to identify themselves as in this world... For example, my friend is fully bisexual and will have sex and date either gender. I have another friend, however, who will have sex with people of either gender... but would only "date" (& get into romantic relationships) with men. And I know plenty of people who typically identify themselves as heterosexual, but will engage in limited sexual contact with members of the same sex (i.e., women who will receive oral sex from another gal - but aren't comfortable reciprocating ... but will kiss & fondle). Then there are those who aren't picky about the gender of their partners - as long as their specific sexual actions still remain within their comfort-zones (i.e., a guy who'll get oral sex from another guy and will give penetrative sex (anal) to another guy -- but does not give oral nor receive anal... thereby maintaining his "male"-role even in what would be defined as a homosexual encounter) What do y'all think??

You're making my head spin. Different levels of bi?

Ok, I do not consider myself Bi but maybe I am. Here's why: I find it extremely HOT to give a girl oral while another guy is doing her. Also like giving oral after he does her. No creampie eating. Just licking her out after good hard fucking or while he's fucking her. I also like to kiss her after she has sucked me and him off. I find a penis very attractive when it's handled by a woman. But in no way do I find being solo with a man attractive at all. I can't even think about anal giving or receiving with another guy, even with a woman present. But I have thought about licking his cock while he is doing her. Just to taste her on him...I have had a long long time ago a gay encounter and I'm 100% sure I'm not gay. I love woman and pleasing a woman or another couple. I'm not arrogant about it, it's just what turns me on. So what am I?? Help!!!

I've done that. My wife had one of her best orgasms that way. Kissing me after she has sucked his cock was her idea. It was o.k. with me. It's hard not to notice his cock. What gets me excited is when we are playing with a man who is noticeably bigger than I am. I think you mean 10%. I think you are 100% bi.

Set aside some time this weekend and BOTH of you spend the time looking for a mutual match. Set aside a time each week and look together. Swinging is and always will be a team sport. Good luck.

I prefer swapping with another couple. I do the other woman, the other guy does my wife. That is my preference. Maybe it’s yours. Try it.

We were invited to Pendulum by another couple and the theme was Bibash and Tgirl (transgender) Party. God bless bi, gay and transgender people and may they have great sex to their heart’s desire, but that is not the theme for us. If you are newbies, go on couples night. Single guys can be persistent and a little overwhelming for newbies. Now that I’ve dissed everyone but hetero couples, I will gracefully leave....

Maybe this isn't a good hobby for you two.

I do, as a male, want to know what my female partner wants. Oral or manual stimulation is sometimes more effective than intercourse. I discuss it with my partner. I ask what would you like me to do? If you with men who are just getting themselves off and they are not giving partners, they are not the people who you want.

We just had a MMF with a guy the other night who openly admitted his marriage was horrible and his wife doesn't care what he does. I highly doubt he told her, though.

It seriously sounds like your communication needs improvement. I can understand his enthusiasm now that he is embracing the idea of swinging, but it should always be viewed as a hobby and not as a priority. Talk with him and work this out. He might just not realize he is doing it. Either way, he needs to calm down and not rush so much. Right now it sounds like it is probably more important that you two find ways to spend more time together than in trying to find more people to bring into your relationship. Good luck.

It seems that either the guys can go for awhile or they don't last very long at all. Both are fine as long as they make sure that the woman is totally pleasured...but if they aren't bothering to see to that happening, then find another guy/couple. If it happens once, it could just be nerves or inexperience, but if it happens a second time, then the guy is only thinking about himself and that isn't a good match IMHO. If pleasuring their partner isn't a priority, then find someone else who feels it is.

I feel your angst, you seem to have a valid problem. I would suggest that you set a rule, that he is not to suggest any times for the other couple until he has cleared it with you. And have him stick to that.

Seems to me that you need to ask her if she is satisfied or not and then go from there. I know in our case, my wife would not be satisfied and we have been down that road. Like you, we are a light circulation couple but the ones we have been with, none have really satisfied her. We talked about it and she said she would like more foreplay whereas, it seems, the guy is all about jumping on and pounding away. We agreed that she should set the pace and let her partner know up front. She needs to give him feedback (more/less, faster/slower, higher/lower)to enhance the experience for her and thus for him too. Unless she is getting something out of it, this could be a premature end to what could be a great time for you as a couple.

My wife says we have to have sex with each other more than with other people. Not a bad thing to keep in mind.

The most important question is if this troubles your wife. Does she come in this time? Can he get hard again and go another round with her? Do you take sloppy seconds and satisfy her? It could be first time excitement and your wife is extremely attractive. I would give these guys a second and third chance, but after that if it isn't working, time to move on.

Is this, dear Angelkin, a monster of your own creation? I seem to recall from your history of posting here at Swingersboard that your S.O. had to be introduced in stages to the idea of swing. Is he now become too enthusiastic for comfort? Tell me, of course, if my remembrance is not correct. Being selfish with your time is your right and your privilege. What does he say when your bring this up?

We would be too. We don't even respond to a message on one of the sites until we have both seen it and talked about, much less actually try to set something up. It sounds like the first part of that is being met, but the second part isn't. The first one would be a huge red flag, but the second one is still a sign of this has started to depart from a team sport into something short of that. It sounds like you've expressed your displeasure with this and yet it still happens. It might be time to consider putting the foot down a little harder and make it clear that if there are to be any meets at all in the future, then your priorities as a couple better start taking precedence over any other priorities.

Desire RM is a beach resort in Riviera Maya, Mexico. Near Cancun. I went rogue off topic. It’s a lifestyle friendly resort. Many there are nudists, newbies or just like the sexy vibe. Easy to observe or possibly participate. If nothing happens, you had a nice, sexy beach vacation.

I know this thread is about MFMs, but I have to say, this is why I wish we could have more FMFs, too. It's a lot more relaxing to give pleasure to Mr. Sun, while he is the center of attention!