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In our area (near Atlanta), there are SDC meet n greets, many of which are free. In fact, Paradise Valley has one each month. It is a nude resort in Dawsonville, about an hour north of Atlanta. Free entry, free meals (3), and a chance to play. Not all do. You just have to get out and introduce yourselves. What better way than when you are already naked?

The information provided in your story is not sufficient to allow a judgement as to whether or not you are cut out for the lifestyle. But I read enough into the story to make me feel confident to lend the following advice: any initial meeting should be at a neutral location such as a coffee shop or restaurant. In that way, nobody will feel free to take liberties. And there will be time to talk things over before a second meeting is proposed or a follow-up invitation is accepted. Most of the mistakes my wife and I made when new to the lifestyle came from being over-eager. I hope this helps.

Good luck as you both move forward and remember to keep us up to date.

Absolutely no one will care if there are three people in a closed hotel room. And if you tell him no recording, that should be it. Swinging, done properly is very safe. But, I urge you, under NO circumstances should you 'surprise' your wife. Let her know what might happen, allow her to be a full participant.

Hey all thanks for the responses. The whole thong was a learning experience but the funny thing is how I noticed our reaction/interaction this time around. We have only been involved with the lifestyle for about a year and only been to clubs three times but there clearly has been a change in us. First time there we were a little uncomfortable, sat in corners waiting to be "attacked" and didn't know anyone. Now I can easily spot the newbies, have no problem approaching and talking to attractive women (but none more attractive than my wife), not worried about other guys "disrespecting" me (i.e. flirting w/my wife in front of me) and not embarrassed to get raunchy in front of others. We are definitely having fun now.

Thanks again for all of your input, everyone has been so helpful. We begin counseling this weekend so I’m hopeful that will be a good start to the process of repairing our relationship. ?

I masturbate at least 3 times a day. This isn't a number I set out to make, but I often will take a whole weekend off and can masturbate up to about ten times a day. How much do you masturbate? Do you think it's ok to masturbate as much as I do?

We're finding the opposite..almost every couple we come across on sls has a bi girl, and a few have rejected us because my wife is straight.

Those fucking cock-blocking Russians

Freudian slip...

Agreed with above. There's no reason the staff should even notice if you have a friend or three in your room.

GMO, yes, from reading ads and such, it would be easy to think that couples want FMF. However, among experienced couples, I would suggest that most couples want FMFM, followed by MFM. Unicorns are just too hard to find, and many if not most women aren't bi anyways.

Almost all of the swingers personals sites have a free option. Swinglifestyle, Swingtowns, Swingers Date Club are three big ones and there are others too.

This is really good advice learned from experience. We do play separately on occasion, but only with a couple we have a strong relationship and history with. I think many swingers are like us and see playing separately as kind of advanced level stuff and is only reserved for those you trust the very most. It's hard to trust someone that you just met online. Even if you met them online at first, then once there is some face to face history there, that is when the trust comes. Same as meeting someone at a party or meet and greet. You've talked to them in person and they are part of the same network you are since you both are at the same events, so trust comes much quicker.

I meant the whole thing. But I'm sure you could learn a thing or two from thongs

My take is couples prefer a extra female. In venues like Craigs List, or on swinger web sites the advertising leans heavily towards a woman for a third. Where they are asking for a man it often means the husband is bi & will be having mm sex.

I think I can understand that for some it may be easier to find an M to join. For us we started with my husband and my girlfriends. I wasn't looking for sex with two men. My husband who was just my fiancé at the time seemed to be very happy with that situation. I thought he would have a hard time sharing with another guy. I was surprised when he suggested his friend join us. We had already been to a party and he had said he was fine watching another guy with me. For me a fmf is more fun.

If it was a couple that the 'clicked' with, we would probably go hoping that we would click with other couples that they know.

When reading your original post, we thought the same thing that you thought: the two girls were playing and the other couple wanted to keep the guys to their own women. Are you in the wrong: no, not in our opinion. Did they overreact: yep! Either of them could have easily (and politely) asked for you to stop now and this most likely wouldn't have been an issue at all. This is why people who have been in the L/S for awhile shy away from 'noobies'...too much chance of drama (not the two of you but the other couple). Don't take it personal, just move ahead. Maybe in the future you MAY (but we don't feel it necessary) ask to clarify things in the future. You didn't do anything wrong, don't worry about it.

My husband and I have friends that are married that we spend lots of time with each other. We are very very open about everything and a few months ago me and the the other girl made out quite sexually at a bar the majority of the night drinking. Ever since then my husband has been convinced that something might happen in the future and so we talked a long time about if it would ever happen and how we would feel. The thought of a foursome with our best friends kinda scared me a bit since I have only ever been with my husband sexually. I dismissed my husband that he was just not reading them right and that nothing would ever happen,even though since the first time we kissed it had happened again and our conversations always had a bit more sexual undertones. Last night we got drinking again and sure enough we were talking and flirting with each other and end up making out again in our bedroom. Naturally the men begged to see our boobs which eventually led to clothing be removed. It started out as having sex with our partners beside each other but it led to touching our friends all over and eventually swapped partners. It was a lot of fun and it was a first for everyone when it came to group sex and we are definitely hoping for it to happen again in the future

Dave and I have found an interest in different flavors or cum, both from men and women. We were fine wine lovers before, now we are cum connoisseurs.

As a wife with years of experience, my appetite still has me masturbating three or four times a day, and that is sometimes not including having a partner present. I know my hubby has jacked off at least 8 times in the past, and I witnessed most of them. That's how I found that I love to see him lick up and eat his own cum without sucking it out of my pussy or sharing in a kiss. He said it was when he was a teen, he would shoot in different directions. Laura

There have been several threads on this in the past: https://www.swingersboard.com/forums/topic/57341-religion-and-swinging/ https://www.swingersboard.com/forums/topic/40150-christian-swingers/ https://www.swingersboard.com/forums/topic/54819-the-bible-interpreting-it-and-swinging/ There are several more but these are ones that I recall from fairly recent times. Heck, if you do any research about the 'lost books of the Bible' you will find out that there are dozens of books that have been included and excluded from the Bible over time. One other site that I have kept bookmarked is this: Monogamy Isn't Biblical, It's Roman I always wondered why the Old Testament had men marrying multiple wives and then it just stopped in the New Testament. This explains a lot of the why. Bottom line is we both believe in God and are religious, but we also believe that whatever anyone else believes in, as long as it makes them a better person and doesn't hurt others, is a good thing and should be allowed and encouraged. I would hate to be in front of the gates of heaven only to see Buddha or Allah or The Great Spirit was the 'right' God and have Him tell us 'you picked the wrong God...sorry, you are out'. I believe that this won't happen, but at the same time believe that God wouldn't be so religious exclusive (only one 'right' religion and everyone else goes to Hell). Most organized religion teaches 'be a good person and be nice to everyone else'...we do our best to adhere to this although we identify ourselves as Christian. Swinging is something that we do TOGETHER in the light, not behind the back of our SO in the dark. It doesn't 'hurt' either one of us and we do our best not to allow it to hurt anyone else. We don't see where it goes against our 'makes them a better person and doesn't hurt others' belief so we don't have a conflict or issue with the two. We try, as instructed by the Bible, not to judge others and keep our stone casting in check. Sorry, but I was brought up in a strict religious household and I have spent a great deal of time wrestling with this subject. I'll just shut up now...for a few minutes at least.

My wife and I feel that masturbating is a healthy and natural event that can occur several times a day. We are aware that all primates masturbate constantly, so we love to see each other cum on one another, and we have both been lovers of mens and womens cum tastes as well.

Why in the world did I miss this thread? I've LOVED reading the posts so far! Great stories to tell the grandkids here! **OK... Just kidding!** To those who've read my threads, you know that we're pretty open about sex with our kids. We've discussed everything having to do with sex since they were little. Well, years before we started swinging, we were definitely into toys. We have a LOT of toys. Various sizes, colors, types... There's a different toy for everything. Step back about 10 years or so... Dave and I must have had a wild night because there were quite a few toys lying on the floor on his side of the bed, which is nearest the wall. Whatever is on the floor on his side of the bed is hidden quite well from the door. The kids have told us for years though that they're scared to go over there for fear of what they might find. Well, Dave was out cowboying one day and brings home this little pup. Cutest little thing you've ever seen. Going through that chewing everything and gnawing everything in sight, stage. Well, our son is out in the livingroom with one of his friends playing nintendo and I was in my bedroom folding clothes on the bed. The pup comes in our room and unknown to me, goes under the bed, and I seen him run out the door but really didn't pay it much attention. A couple of minutes later, I could hear our son coming down the hall toward our room. He has a shovel in his hand with one of our green dildos sitting right in the middle, which the dog had stolen from Dave's side of the bed. I suppose I wouldn't have touched it either had it been my parents. I probably would have either dressed in full HAZMAT attire or scooped it up in a shovel, too! "MOM!! You and dad have got to put these things away!!" He chucks that thing on the bed and goes back out to the livingroom. I have no idea what his friend said or if he even knew something was up. I was too busy, bent over, from laughing so hard. Poor Kid to have such kinky parents.