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Has your wife read this board at all? What about going to a meet and greet in your area? She would have the opportunity to talk to other women about the exerience and fantasies, things we don't share with our vanilla friends. At a meet and greet there is no pressure to play. If interested she may agree to a party or club with the agreement to only play with each other and enjoy the environment. MFM's are my favorite, my idea as a single lady without a partner. Fantasy to reality took a while as I was trying to understand my desires and how to make them happen.

Well, I had drifted away from the poly meetups in our city and our friends had fewer small social gatherings for nearly a year. A leading couple that hosted split up, then divorced. The dust needed to settle. Over a year later I'm hanging with the group again. I started going to their birthday parties, then a house warming party, then a local Burning Man festival. There are 4 of us guys that have been partners of partners (metamours) for 8 years. There's 3 women in the orgy core group. 1 has been in our pod for 6 yrs. The other 2....one year or less. So, there's 7 of us. I'm not officially dating anyone in the group, and the same for one other long-timer of the pod. We certainly feel honored to have been invited. It was their 2nd birthday celebration orgy, but our first time. There were 8 people the first one (3 men and 5 women!) The women would love to see some guy on guy action. I'd be more than happy to oblige, but only one of the other guys is bi, and he didn't want to play with me years ago, so without adding people, there will be no male/male fucking. We have had some discussion on a messenger about who we might add. It's so exciting to discuss it, but it definitely feels dangerous on messenger, even more so than it might face to face. Well, here's to hoping to lots of longevity for our orgy group! I'm kinda in NRE right now with the group, but also the women too, to some extent. I'm so having to refrain from starting contact with then every day online. I'm the only one that is "single". Err....I'm about to pop with excitement and anticipation! - I was with swinging couples till the age of 29, then had a few poly threesomes, but they were not super common. I was missing the swinger couples from times past, but now my poly pod is grooving like I had wished for in my early 30's. I'm 37 now. To top it off, I couldn't get a full erection. Then my 75% erection deflated after starting intercourse. I had a peyronies injury occur 3 years ago. It makes things more complex for me. But....I was able to give a woman an orgasm via oral! I couldn't get that done for nearly 8 years! Damn, I was relieved. ....whew.

My husband has this problem as well and it's not just with other women. When we were first together I thought something was wrong with me because he doesn't always cum. He says he's always had this problem and that he still loves to have sex and he has a great time but sometimes it just doesn't happen. This has been hard for some of the other women in the LS because they take it that he isn't having a good time when indeed he is. We have to explain to them that it's totally normal for him. But he's also extremely satisfied making the women cum over and over and he has fantastic oral skills! Now the women just find it a challenge to try to make him cum.

BPH does that stand for Been Peeing Hourly?

The body image conversation is an interesting one. Most LS people care about their appearance and by extension their physical attractiveness. Male or female, they are quick to list their flaws. They are especially concerned about being judged by strangers. Our experience suggests that personality and especially openness is far more important. By middle age, most people look...middle aged. Sags and marks and lines and scars are part of life. What the LS offers is the chance to get past the insecurities and recognize that you (and especially your partner!) are not only atttactive but indeed sexy and desirable.

Oh, almost forgot. My parents took me and my sister to see Blazing Saddles when we were on vacation (when it was out in the theaters). They didn't know what it was about other than a western comedy. Lets just say they didn't enjoy the movie as much as I did. Saw the movie on TV a few weeks ago...let's jsut say that there was a bunch of the dialogue that was bleeped out. Rent or stream the unedited version if you are going to watch it. Mongo only a pawn in the game of life... Does anybody got a dime? Somebody's gotta go back and get a shitload of dimes! Hey there, handsome. Is that a ten-gallon hat, or are you just enjoying the show? My name's Jim, but most people call me - Jim...I used to be known as the Waco Kid. Candygram for Mongo. Candygram for Mongo. Now I don't have to tell you good folks what's been happening in our beloved little town. Sheriff murdered, crops burned, stores looted, people stampeded, and cattle raped. The time has come to act, and act fast. I'm leaving. I want rustlers, cut throats, murderers, bounty hunters, desperados, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men, Indian agents, Mexican bandits, muggers, buggerers, bushwhackers, hornswogglers, horse thieves, bull dykes, train robbers, bank robbers, ass-kickers, shit-kickers, and Methodists! Bart: [in a gruff voice, hauling himself by the collar and pressing the muzzle of his gun against his own neck] Hold it! The next man that makes a move, the nigger gets it. Dr. Johnson: Hold it men, he's not bluffing! [all but Howard Johnson drop their guns] Dr. Samuel Johnson: Listen to him, men; he's just crazy enough to do it! Bart: [still gruffly, to Howard] Drop it, or I swear I'll blow this nigger's head ALL OVER THIS TOWN! [minstrel voice] Oh, Lawdy-Lawd, he's desp'at! Do what he say, do what he SAY...! [Howard slowly drops the gun] [bart slowly moving towards the sheriff's office, still holding himself hostage] Harriet Johnson: Isn't anyone going to help that poor man? Dr. Samuel Johnson: Hush, Harriet! That's a sure way to get him killed! Bart: [minstrel voice] Oh, Oh he'p me! He'p me! He'p me! Somebody He'p me! He'p me! He'p me! He'p me! [gruffly] Shut up! [covers his own mouth, pushes himself into the office] Oh, baby, you are so talented--and they are so dumb! Taggart: We'll work up a "Number 6" on 'em! Hedley Lamarr: "Number 6?" I'm afraid I'm not familiar with that one... Taggart: Well, that's where we go a-ridin' into town, a-whoppin' and a-whumpin' every livin' thing that moves within an inch of its life. Except the womenfolks, of course. Hedley Lamarr: You spare the women? Taggart: Naw, we rape the shit out of them at the Number 6 Dance later on!

A bit harsh but very true, Sun&Moon.

When me and my wife were chatting about the no kissing rule I said to her "I don't have a massive cock, I don't have a ripped body, one of the things I'm good at is kissing , by ruling out kissing you are actually crippling my chances of getting anywhere in this lifestyle" she said ok then go for it haha

GoldCoCouple is right on with the advice they give and i would like to some what re-enforce that as well. Your reacting to this go and stop Not acting on it. That is to say your problems come from some where else not with him going to the club or not (or any bounds he has about sex ) My 1st thought is why would he say yes then no when he's out of time? 1st look at your self - are you pushing him?, Does he think he has to do this to keep his love of his life or does he think if he does not do it you will any way? What have you done to talk this out with him and why do you not know his boundaries? Now look at what he is doing : He says yes - you think ok great - then it's no when the time comes. WHY? This comes down to the two of you not being able to talk truthfully to each other, It's not about your sexual wants - though they get sidelined by the main problem. Don't worrie many and i mean many of us have gone though this. So what can be done to improve this - Stop with the talk of others for now. you need to build up a lot better understanding of each other ( how long have you be together ?) This will always be the life you have ( going stopping in everything ) if you can not get on the same page AND most importantly listen to each other. it's know use talking if neither can listen. so sit him down with out any reservations and talk about everything - the why's, any boundaries, wants, hopes and dreams - find out who you two are - once you are on that path then you will find he can trust you and you him, Then and only then will he give you the answers that he means. Lastly - look at it from his shoes also - every time you get upset with him he thinks oh shit if this keeps going on will she find some else. I think that is the real reason he says yes but at the last minute he says no because it goes over his boundaries. and that's no life to live. Let us know what your thinking and any updates Good luck to both of you.

Club Vixen in Van Nuys. Freedom Acres about an hour east. Quite a few house parties and regular group meet ups if you watch SLS hot dates.

I agree. Kissing is a huge part of playing and sex. At first I felt there should be no kissing but as my wife explained to me she loves to kiss and lick and if I told her no kissing it would take away a lot of enjoyment of swimging. The more I thought about it the more I agreed. Like she said to me, “you are okay if I suck a strangers dick and swallow but I can not kiss him!” I had the lightbulb moment. I love to kiss as well!

I agree. We could never be with a couple that had a no kissing rule.

Oh, I absolutely agree with J&Wu. A thank-you kiss is a compliment and should be taken as one.