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So here we are been talking about entering the LS for some time now.. Been married over 25 years she's 47 and I'm 48 and high school sweethearts both of us have never had another partner. I guess most would wonder why even brought this up? Our sex life in incredible we at least have some sort of sex 5 or more nights a week sometimes it's spontaneous. I could be watching tv setting on the couch and she will just walk over pull my shorts down and start blowing me and never say a word!! I'm always running my hand up her skirt feeling her soft satin covered pussy while we are out at diner etc.. We are not ken or barbie but in decent shape and run a half marathon each year for the last 15 years.I'm no porn star below the belt but always make sure she is satisfied. I always want to leave her smiling and toes curled up from having the best sex we can. She has always poked my side when we are out and say would you like to have sex with her or what do you think about that lady over there so she's been giving me suttle hints for years finally clicked in my mind!! I asked her several months ago while she was using her magic wand with her back pressed up against my chest sitting upright my mouth so ever close to her ear both of my hands busy caressing her boobs, as the wand worked its magic, I whispered in her ear would you like another man eating you out while I hold you just like this her response sent cold chills down my back "oh god yes please" asked her would you placed both hands on his head and guide him like you do me to that perfect spot that sends you overboard? "Please tell me more" her breathing growing faster and faster the more details I whispered in her ear of another man bringing her to a orgasm.. several minutes later its a wonder the kids upstairs wasn't scared out of their minds LOL never heard her that vocal coming before!! She gathered her self and turned around and buried her head in my neck and said I'm sorry should have never let myself go like that please don't be mad about me coming to another man!! I said honey I want you to have the best and would never be mad.. She stated Ive always wanted see if another man was attracted to me and what it would feel like having someone beside you touch and caress me. I'm like wow over 25 years marriage and Im just now find out about this LOL.. Over the last several months she/we had been so researching the LS and reading the posts here its like a switch has been thrown with her its incredible.. Told me so many stories positive and negative ones, positive ones gets her so wet!! She been showing me club dresses and has ordered several and modeled them for for me. She will ask do you think will I get any attention with this on and I'm like sure you will poor me will be left out LOL..I then let my hands start to rub all over her while she grinds me dancing in our bedroom she says would you be ok with me dancing with someone like this? I said just feel how hard I am LOL.. Conversions have progressed to what we are comfortable with and both agreed start with a couple local cubs this month just flirt/dance and not to expect anything or push our comfort levels.. Then this morning she said I'm ready to see you penetrate another woman never thought I would hear such from my wife LOL... We are excited/nervous to see where this journey takes us.. Sorry for the long post hope to update with exciting news over the next several months... Charlie & Ally

First of all, thanks for following up. Second, we're all still here for you. Any time you feel the need to talk or vent or whatever, we're here. You are NOT alone. I'm sure that you have friends and family in addition, but here you can say whatever you want without judgement. Love and hate are the extremes of an emotional scale. Not a linear scale but a circular scale (where love and hate almost touch but don't). When he says he doesn't know the answers to your questions, most likely it's because he just doesn't know. Men sometimes just do things without analyzing the possible outcomes, especially emotional outcomes. Men aren't supposed to use or even have emotions so they can ignore emotional warning signs. Not trying to make excuses for him, but most likely he just doesn't KNOW why he did something so stupid. However, even if he knew exactly why (and he doesn't), it won't make things better...it won't fix anything. Since it sounds like you are planning on staying, get (at least for you) a councilor that you can talk to. Don't take this all on yourself. Use ALL of the help available. In the end, it is going to take time to heal these wounds and there's no way to speed that process up. Time, support, communication, and more time. Just know that the worst is over now and that every day things will get ever so slightly better. Still, we are so sorry that you are having to go through this, just remember that you don't have to go alone. Keep talking and we are praying for you.

I thought a lot of what you've described about your openness and playfulness about sex is important and a good sign. Good luck to you!

Yes! We love the details!

You play (without her or her agreement), you PAY! Child support and alimony will put a bigger crimp in your style than waiting till her hormones settle down and she's once again confident about her body. She's now the mother of your child, treat her like she's more than your wingman or the bait to get you laid. Believe it or not, there really ARE more important things in this world than strange sex. Establishing a family, caring for a child and making a secure and happy home for the kid takes priority over swinging. You may not know it but your "lifestyle" started to change the minute that little fishy of yours scored with her egg. Get over yourself, swinging is recreation, baby and family are LIFE!!!!

OMG, I swear you sound just like a couple we met a few weeks back. I can completely see this lady in your post. Honey, swinging is about the ladies IMO. I believe that it is meant to make you all feel, sexy, empowered and able to seek pleasure without guilt or negative feelings. We guys have been allowed this freedom throughout history. If it doesn't make you feel fantastic it's not worth it. Speak your mind, tell him what you are feeling. It sounds like there would be no swinging without you, use your power.

We've been doing this for a long time and have heard nearly every excuse in the book for no shows so we may be a bit cynical. If your wife likes him and wants to give him the benefit of the doubt, what do you have to lose? On the other hand, you might want to at least begin the selection process again so that you have a Plan "B" in the works if he turns out to be a stiff (and not in a good way). Nothing says you have to put all your other options on ice while he has you two on hold.

You're not even close to getting the full story. Generally speaking, upgrades ship within a few days. Carriers LIKE to upgrade your phone. Plus, there are plenty of phone repair shops that can replace a battery or faulty power button for a relative pittance. My 1st thought was that he's married or had a girlfriend. Who knows? A bad phone is a bad excuse.

Or perhaps she’s the only one who brought it up. Seriously, your mother-in-law made mention that you and your wife hadn’t included any phrasing about “forsaking all others.” I’d be more interested in what happened after that. Did you two just smile and say nothing more? Have a discussion about swinging? Inquiring minds want to know...

Nakedal, I can relate to a lot of your posts. I don't want to be a downer, but the lifestyle may not be for everyone. My wife and I have been together for 27 years and I have tried many of the things suggested and it is just something that she is not interested in. Like your wife, my wife really gets excited about threesome talk, she loves it when we play and we use a large Rabbit vibrator as a "Third" person. Many times she will only be able to come when I talk dirty to her about me watching her having sex with someone else. However, that is as far as it goes. She claims that she does not have any sexual fantasies, and the only time she thinks about it is when we are in the middle of having sex. We have purchased a number of sex toys, and we keep them in a box up in our closet away from our kids when they were younger. (Take your wife to a high end sex toy shop, that can be a fun evening). We have gone to a number of swinger clubs, she loves the vibe and loves to go dancing and people watch. We have gone to Desire in Mexico 4 times, and are going again in January. We have a blast there, he people are super friendly. She loves laying out and swimming naked. Once again, she loves to dance, and I get to see her in sexy clothes that she would never wear anywhere else. We have been propositioned a number of times, but she is not interested at all. So we go, we watch, and we have our fantasy and enjoy each other. As much as I would enjoy seeing her with someone else, I believe it will never happen.

May you live together in happiness. At what kind of venu was the wedding?

You’ll need to do nothing more than wait until his phone heals (or his attitude adjusts itself). When my wife and I first started, many people flaked out on us. We were simply overeager and failed to see the signs. I believe this young man of yours is one of these flakes. Move on. There are plenty of fish in the sea.

Our criteria was whether a couple was fun in a vanilla setting. If they made us laugh, we figured they'd understand "fucking for fun." Good point rickl81au! You married a wise woman, but you knew that, didn't you?

I had talked to my wife for ages about swinging, all with no luck, but she was always into the idea when we were having sex. A few years later on holiday in Florida we met a guy who ran the local picture gallery, he took a shine to her and I finally convinced her to fuck him. Holiday fever and excitement took over and She agreed but I couldn't watch. This was half way through our time there. She told me all about it and she knew how excited it made me when she recounted the sex with him. After a lot a discussion she agreed to fuck him whilst I watched. I spoke to the guy explaining the situation and he also agreed provided I just watched, which was more than fine by me. I still remember that for me special moment. I was so nervous, almost shaking. I sat in a chair in our hotel room a little to the side, she didn't want eye contact with me she said. When the moment came and she spread her legs and he moved above her between them although I couldn't see the actual moment of penetation, when he pushed forward she raised her hips and gasped, and held his hips with both hands, I knew he was then in her. He stayed still for some time before starting. I almost came in my trousers. I looked at her face she had her eyes closed but I could see in her expression what she had just experienced. I just could not believe what I was seeing, to me it was the greatest sexual charge I had ever had. He was very good with her, aware that she and also me were so very nervous. It was the most exciting pit of stomach churning feeling I have ever had. Since that time I have watched her with many men it always turns me on, but never like that very first time.

Well,he did last about ten minutes more really going at L very much as his wife instructed. I got the impression and so did my wife when we spike later that this was as much for his wife as mine. After he finished, we both got back to our business which was extremely hot

Interesting. Did she let the two of you go back to what you were doing, or was that it?

ED meds, Viagra, Cialis, etc. I call it my insurance policy. If a man has trouble achieving erection, this is the ticket.

Do you know anyone else on the guest list? If not, are their pics or links to the profiles of everyone on the guest list? My husband and I have gone to house parties before where the guest list was "secret". We've had a blast. Would we go to this? It depends on how well we knew the host. And if you get there and it's not your thing, you can always leave.

You're either putting the buggy before the horse or assuming that I am. I was recommending a simple club visit to get things started for a single male. That's all... Hooking up is chapter 2. Chapter one is for exactly the things you mentioned. I believe that this is better accomplished by showing up in person. That way you can meet people who are more than likely on the same site. That's my advice to a newb single male. Provided you are a reasonable gentleman and you are a mature grown up it's more beneficial to get out and socialize than spend hours using a web site. Because single men are a dime a dozen and most are total nincompoops. When you're in person people will get a better idea of what you are all about.

i think it is hot and i like to watch that a guy sucks cock and get fucked.

Since very early on in our relationship I have always been turned on by my wife flirting with other guys and have always wanted to watch her with another man then either join in or have her afterwards. Watching live porn, with my wife as the star, is absolutely great. It makes me want her so much more. However, we have not done the MFM thing yet and she is not sure she wants to. Even still, being with another couple was great. I got to watch her be pleased by another man and got to watch him be turned on by watching me with his wife. Being with his wife was pretty secondary to me though. I enjoyed watching her be with him much more and when we swapped back to our own spouses for a bit it was just great. I really do want to have an MFM though. The though of my wife sucking my dick while another guy fucks her is a huge turn-on for me. Watching her suck another guy while I fuck her as well. I've also always wanted to give her a DP with another man. We've done it with toys but I just think with another real cock it will be something else entirely. All of these things though really seem to require a MFM and do not seem feasible when we are with another couple as that would leave the other woman out. What seems really weird about this to me is that it seems most guys have the fantasy of being with 2 women. That doesn't do much for me at all. I mean sure, watching my wife be with another woman is great and it turns me on as well, but not the same level. Knowing that I can switch back and forth and when I need a break they can take care of each other is all fine and good, but just not the same. When we were with this other couple, my wife did play with the other woman for a bit, and it was hot, but I just could not wait to see her with the other man. Perhaps if the other man was not there and not a consideration I could get into the FMF a little more, but to me it was just not all I hear other guys make it out to be.