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This might get a little long, but I'm going to try to insert as much detail as possible so it has a bit of a masturbation factor for anyone reading it. This will most likely turn out to be more of a Penthouse Letter or non-fiction erotica. I'm going to start way at the beginning to explain how we even got to the point of joining the lifestyle. Chapter One: The Beginning My wife and I have been together 17 years and things in the bedroom were getting routine. We tried a little BDSM with me as Dom and her as sub (consent to no-consent sub - but I didn't exploit that). At one point, I took an awesome picture of her ass after a flogging/paddling session and told her I was going to post it somewhere for feedback. She didn't like that idea, but her face wasn't in it, so she agreed. The feedback and upvotes were through the roof. Her confidence was sky high and we began posting more and more. In our profile on one site, we said that we weren't comfortable with swapping, but we enjoyed voyeurism and exhibitionism. Eventually, a couple contacted us and asked if we'd like to video chat our fuck sessions. After some chatting and pic swapping, we agreed. It was awkward at first, but we really got to know them as a couple and as friends. Eventually, we were camming weekly, sharing ideas, giving direction, taking direction, and having a great time. About a year and a half into it, the husband messaged me on the side and started telling me about some major jealousy issues they were having because they'd moved from online to real life. They agreed to have a somewhat open marriage where they'd never sleep with someone one-on-one; the other spouse always had to be involved or at least had to be in the room. Well, it didn't work out for either of them. He hated watching her with other men and she hated watching him with other women. Every encounter was awkward and unenjoyable. They tried to push through with communication, but it always led to arguments. They gave up the real life play and the jealousy remained. They're currently getting a divorce because they just can't let it go and chalk it up to "well, that was an experience, so let's just go back to what works and forget this." My wife and I are still friends with them, but we lost our play partners. Chapter Two: Our First Real Life Adventure We'd lost our play couple and tried various websites to find people. Being "professionals," we need a serious amount of discretion. I don't mean that to be snobby or elitist. We both have jobs where we work with ridiculous amounts of people and have tons of clients who could recognize us. I also use my face in marketing campaigns, so I could be recognizable to even the average Joe on the street. Probably not since my marketing area is pretty tight, but I also have an online presence, so I'm weird about my privacy. Please don't think we're elitist dicks; we just don't want our careers to suffer if we're outed as swingers. In any case, we ended up meeting a couple online who lived relatively close to us. We explained that we weren't ready to swap, but that we were really into voyeurism and exhibitionism. They were too. We chatted online for a couple weeks and shared pics before we ended up meeting for dinner and drinks. We got along wonderfully and ended up back at their place. It seemed like they had a very similar relationship to ours where he was Dom and she was sub. As we sat in the family room, he looked at his wife and said, "inspection." We knew what this meant, but weren't sure how it applied here. She walked out of the room and returned five minutes later wearing a collar and nothing else. She got down on all fours, put her nose on the floor, and he walked around her. He grabbed her free-swinging hair and said, "What the fuck is this?!" She responded, "I'm sorry, Sir." He just looked over at me and smiled. My wife was a bit weirded out. She'd always been the sub and never saw someone else, in-person, live, right in front of her being a sub. The guy's wife got up, went into the other room and came back with her hair in a bun. She also had a paddle. She got back on all fours, put her nose on the floor, and said, "Please correct me, Sir." He gave her a surprisingly hard swat on the ass with the flogger and she let out a squeal that became a moan. I was instantly hard. My wife whispered, "I'm wet as a fuck now." The husband sat back down in his chair and commanded, "Suck." His wife crawled over, opened his pants, pulled out his cock, and started sucking. Keep in mind that we're still completely new to the real life scenario here. He just started chatting with us like nothing was out of the ordinary. He explained their lifestyle and would occasionally tell her to stop just so he could slap her face and tell her how to suck his better. Sometimes he'd just whack her with the paddle or tell her to finger herself. It was pretty routine stuff and things my wife and I had done. It was just completely different and unbelievably arousing seeing it take place in real life. They started to get more involved and there were lulls in the conversation as they both got closer to cumming. I asked my wife if she was okay and she said she was. SO, I figured I'd take my cue from him and ordered her for inspection. She stood in front of me at attention for a moment and then began stripping. When her clothes were finally off, I ordered her to lay on her back on the couch. The husband and wife switched positions and now both watched us as they did it doggy style. I went down on my wife as they watched. My wife was sopping wet. In the 16-17 years we'd been together, her pussy had never been this wet. I was essentially swallowing small mouthfuls of femme-cum. The other wife was close and started moaning loudly. This set off my wife who was about to orgasm as well. The three of them all seemed to cum together, but I was still sitting there with a hard-on. I flipped my wife over and started fucking her from behind. She kept cumming until I was done. I finished inside her and commanded her to clean me up. She immediately turned around and started sucking my dick. The husband asked if his wife should clean up my wife. They didn't seem too worried about STD's and this worried us. We were both totally turned of by this, but I said, "No, she needs to clean herself up." My wife kept masturbating as she fingered herself and licked my cum off her fingers. The other wife started doing the same thing after the husband commanded it. After everyone was freshly fucked and relaxing, we sat around naked, playing with our respective spouses, had a few drinks, chatted, and then we said our goodbyes before leaving. It was a really fun experience, but we were really concerned about their lack of concern for STD's. I mean, we were essentially strangers and this guy wanted his wife to slurp my cum out of my wife's pussy. While the idea of it is hot as hell, we weren't anywhere near that level of contact yet. We talked to them a fee more times and let them know we needed to rely on protection. They kind of blew us off after that. Chapter 3: Our First Swinger's Club After all of that, we decided to check out a swinger's club. We were initially really leery of it because we were terrified that we'd run into someone we knew, but we chose a location near home, but not too close. We got there and got a tour of the club. It seemed to be a bit slow even though there were at least 80 or 90 other couples there. We talked to a few couples and really hit it off with one couple. Let's call them Dan and Tina. They'd been in the lifestyle since their 20's and they were currently in their 40's. They were very straight forward and you could tell they were extremely comfortable in this setting. They, for lack of a better word, really educated us on the whole club scene. As time went on, people started hooking up. Dan and Tina said they were going to wander around and said we could stop by if we saw them having fun. The pleasure areas at this club were basically small rooms with no doors or they were open lofts. We wandered around and at about 12:00 AM, everyone was fucking. Our voyeurism level was off the fucking charts. Everywhere we turned, someone was sucking, fucking, or whatever. We went into "the orgy" room and our minds were blown. I'll never forget the unbelievably hot girl (who was a bit thick, but still hot as can be) just bent over the bed and random guys were wandering over to fuck her in the ass. In fact, she would direct them, "use a rubber, fuck my ass." She really seemed to be enjoying herself. Eventually, she laid on her back and another girl sat on her face while guys came and fucked her. Her husband (boyfriend?) was standing a few feet away just jerking his dick like crazy. We left that room, came back about an hour later, and they were still all going at it. The husband/boyfriend went in, tapped out the guy fucking his woman, and she dropped to her knees to swallow his load. Hubby went to sit on a bed and recover (I honestly don't know if this was his first orgasm or his 20th... I mean, it doesn't that ME an hour to jerk myself off, but whatever). The wife just rolled over into the other girl's pussy and started eating. A guy was fucking a girl next to her. She grabbed his leg, said something, and he stopped. He came over behind her and started going into her ass. She stopped him, grabbed his dick between her legs, and slid him into her pussy. They continued like this for quite awhile. I'm guessing this was her husband's fantasy to watch her get fucked in the ass and now that he was done, she wanted to cum, too. I don't know. My wife and I really wanted to talk to her later, but we never saw them anywhere else. As we were leaving the orgy room, we saw Dan and Tina in one of the lofts. Tina was riding Dan's dick like a cowgirl. She saw us and said, "Come on up and talk! We like having company!" We climbed up and it was awkward since they were buck naked and fucking while we were totally clothed. Tina started talking to my wife and I wasn't about to interrupt Dan since he seemed pretty focused on ramming his cock up his wife's cunt. Tina asked my wife if we'd done any playing and we said no. At that point, my wife sat on my lap, lifted her skirt, grabbed my hand, and stuck it in her pussy. The girls chatted while Dan fucked his wife and I fingered mine. Eventually, Tina (what a sweetheart) was like, "You know, you better give him some attention over there!" My wife slid over, pulled out my cock and jerked me off. Dan and Tina came and then they just watched us for a bit. My wife came first and then as I was about to cum, she went down to swallow my load. When she turned around on all fours, her naked ass was facing Dan and Tina. Just as I was about to cum in my wife's mouth, Tina says, "Wiggle your ass if I can touch." My wife, assuming Tina was going to spank her ass, wiggled it. As I came in my wife's mouth, Tina stuck two fingers in my wife and started rubbing my wife's clit with her thumb. My wife was shocked. She flinched big time! Tina pulled back, my wife shot up. Half my load squirted onto my wife's face, the other half started dribbling out of my wife's shocked mouth. Tina started apologizing. My wife calmed down super fast and was like, "I just didn't expect that!!" We all started laughing as we realized my wife had a cum shot up her cheek and some dribbling off her chin. Tina helped clean my wife up and we all sat around chatting and cracking up at how my wife had a mini-freak-out. We hung out together for the rest of the night, drinking, talking, watching other couples fuck, and Dan and I got blow jobs from our drunk wives again later. As the night wore on, Tina and my wife were like best friends. Before leaving, Tina gave my wife (who's pretty straight) a deep tongue kiss. They both laughed and that was it. Chapter 4: The Return of Dan and Tina at the Second Swinger's Club we ever went to. After having such an awesome time at the first club, we couldn't wait for the next event. Unfortunately, they only have events every 3 weeks, so we decided to check out another club we'd found online. This was a much more "upscale" place that referred to itself as a "swinger's social club." The first place was kind of a dive (but it was clean). This place was much more high end and it was in a very nice and very large home. Probably one step below what most people would call "a mansion." After a long orientation interview with several other couples who were new to this club, we started wandering around. There was a DJ witch dance music and a stripper pole like the last place, so it wasn't like this was some snooty club with classical music and naked people politely asking, "May I touch your breasts and vagina, madam?" It was just a bunch of down to earth people hanging out together. We brought some alcohol and start having a few drinks as we scope out the other couples and try to determine "how" to mingle in this new venue. All of a sudden, Dan and Tina walk through the door. Tina sees my wife, runs over, gives her a huge hug and a big sloppy (and very long) kiss. I was actually taken aback since my wife is straight and she was totally into this kiss. It was pretty awesome. Dan and I shake hands. We sit down, drink, and they bring us up to speed on the new club. It's a very different setting, but basically the same rules and same people, but with a dress code. Another difference was that the first place seemed to have distinct areas. There were pleasure areas and party areas. At this one, the whole place became a pleasure area around midnight. At the last place, it was more like couple-and-couple (at least for us). At this place, when my wife started sucking my cock, there were about 30 people in the room watching and fucking right along with us. During our discussions with Dan and Tina, we brought up the STD thing. They were both carrying STD test results. No wonder we like these people! Very like-minded on the safety stuff! We explained that we'd never been with anyone but each other for the last 17 years and they were blown away. Hey, we're new to this! Gotta start somewhere! Anyway... Dan and Tina went to do their thing. We met up with them later and they introduced us to another couple. They then invited us to "the big bed" where Dan fucked the other guy's wife, Tina fucked the other guy, and we just kind watched and masturbated each other. From our previous discussions, Dan and Tina knew we weren't ready for a full swap, but she tried to get us involved. Eventually, Tina was like, "Dan, finger fuck her! And you, come over here!" My wife laid next to Dan and he started fingering my wife while the other guy's wife sucked on her tits. My wife's hands started to roam and she was rubbing the girl's clit while Dan pounded away. Tina started making out with me while she jerked me off. I started rubbing her clit as she got fucked too. The guy Tina was fucking finished and went off to wherever. He just kind of disappeared. Dan was still going at it. We moved to the side right next to my wife and Tina looked at my wife, my wife looked back, and Tina just planted another deep kiss as she was stroking my cock. Then, sweetly as could be, she asks my wife, "Is it okay if I suck him?" My wife looked at me, I looked at her, we both knew this could happen, but we didn't really count on it. My wife says, "go ahead." I was a little shocked. Tina's sucking my cock, my wife's eyes are glued on the action, and I reach up to start fingering my wife. I put 2 fingers inside her and start rubbing her G-spot as Dan keeps working her clit with his thumb. Finally, Dan blows his load in the other guy's wife (in a condom). Dan goes and sits in a chair about 2 feet away. The other guy's wife has already cum a dozen times (for being in his late 40's, Dan was a fucking machine!). She comes around and asks if she can eat my wife. Tina looks at my wife and just says, "It's ok, she's got papers too... She's good." As I watch this woman go down on my wife, I see my wife's eyes are as wide as saucers. She's never had a woman go down on her before and I'm not sure if she's freaking out or what. I mouth the words, "Are you okay?" She mouths back, "Fucking awesome!" I'm about to cum and I let Tina know. She keeps jerking my cock and asks Dan, "Can I swallow him?" Dan nods. She asks my wife. My wife shrugs. I blast a load in Tina's mouth that surprises her. I normally don't have huge loads, but this felt like an enormous amount. What happened next was something I never saw coming even though I know my wife has a huge cum fetish. My wife taps Tina on the ass and says, "Share!" Tina leans over and gives my wife a huge deep kiss. The cum is dribbling out. The other guy's wife comes up from my wife's pussy and gets in on the action. Dan stands up with a huge boner again. He points to my wife and says, "She's the only one who hasn't cum yet! Do you mind?" This was hard for me because I didn't know how I'd feel, but I looked at my wife and we both kind of shrugged. You know, like, "Well, gotta start somewhere." He slipped on a condom and slid himself into my wife. He took about ten strokes and she came (which is pretty normal - she's a super quick summer from vaginal). He kept going. She came again and then asked him to stop. She said it felt good, but it was weird. Tina started talking about it and checking to see if my wife was okay. She was. Dan went back to his chair and jerked off. My wife apologized and they were unbelievably understanding especially since they knew this was our first time swinging. I was a little weirded out too, but I was also aroused because I knew she was cumming and I wanted her to feel good. I know it sounds silly, but it's true. The other couple disappeared and the four of us sat around talking. Tina claimed that she wanted to swallow my load because my precut tastes like candy. Never heard thane before, but okay. Eventually, Tina kind of guided the conversation and asked how we felt about Dan fucking my wife. We told her how it was good and weird at the same time. She looked at my wife and just said, "Do you want to see him inside me?" My wife bluntly said, "I don't know how I'm going to feel about this, but yeah, I kind of want to know." Keep in mind, we'd been hesitant about this all along because of our online friends from chapter one who were getting a divorce. In any case... As soon as I was hard again, Tina laid on her back and softly guided me into her. It had been 17 or 18 years since my dick had been in a woman other than my wife. It felt familiar, but very different at the same time. The most interesting part was how shallow her vagina was. I could feel her cervix when I was about 3/4 the way in and I'm not huge by any stretch (I'm just under 7 inches). As she pulled me in deeper, everything tightened and she started to moan. I started sliding in and out and she kept saying to go harder. I felt myself just beating the shit out of her cervix, but she seemed to be getting off from it. My wife was watching and again, I couldn't tell if she loved it or hated it. She seemed to be fascinated, but totally in shock at the same time. I mouthed, "Are you okay?" She mouthed back, "Keep going." It didn't answer my question, but I kept going. Tina started rubbing her clit with one hand and pinching her nipple with the other. She got very vocal with the "harder harder" and "oh my god!" she and I came at the same time, but as she came, she grabbed my wife and rammed her tongue down her throat. We all kind of collapsed and just laid there for awhile. Dan came by and said he was going to take a shower. He left the room. We sat there talking and Tina told us that Dan was very passive. He was okay with her fucking other guys, but it didn't turn him on. That made sense since he just kind of sat there emotionless. She also said that (and I saw this first hand) that he was a little under 5 inches and she liked guys who could go deeper. She said it was kind of a point of contention with Dan since he couldn't do it himself, but he was okay with other guys giving her what she needed. I felt a little guilt after that, but after he showered and we all met up downstairs, he was back to normal and we were chatting and joking. We wandered around and Dan and Tina introduced us to some other couples (usually while those couples were fucking). They gave us a heads up on some we should stay away from and gave us pointers on being safe (and how to have that discussion). Before the night was over, they told us about where they go for their STD testing and how it's a good idea to have that handy. I don't know how prevalent it is, but it's pretty inexpensive, so we plan to do it routinely just in case (and so we can prove we're clean to other couples). When my wife and I got home, we talked at great length about the evening. In the end, while it was a new experience and it felt awkward being with someone different after having only been with each other for 17 years, we concluded that it was just sex. I still love her more than ever before and she still loves me. There are no feelings of jealousy and no lingering guilt. We figured it would take time to adjust and realize that it's "just sex" and it's about allowing the other to feel good and have a release. It's also about seeing the sexual pleasure the other can derive from someone else while knowing our hearts are still with one another. It's taken time to adjust, but even while we still consider ourselves "new" since we've only been in this lifestyle for about 6 months, it's now a completely different experience than it was back in the beginning. I hope you enjoyed! Comments and questions are always welcome!

Those who go to Hedo spend a bunch of time talking about going, those who go to Desire, just go (all action, no talk) Yes, yes, and just smile. You won't be the first one they have seen.

Unicorns don't exist (something more to research...)

We txt them yesterday and after a few too and throws they called us and we had a four way conversation over the phone. They were waiting for us to make contact with them to give us space and not appear pushy, but want to meet up with us again.

Yes we've now just sent a short but very sweet txt.

Yes, yes thats exactly what we should do......I think my minds turned to mush! lol Thanks

Hey So yes you will go though the " i love you but I'll kill you " stage and it's normal - so are the other things you have talked about. I know your feelings are near unstoppable even with the knowledge that it's his problem - because you have been hurt. But if you want to ever get back on track then you have too stop now and when those feelings come tell them to fuck off - you are not to blame and he needs help! Try to look at it in a different light ( yes easy for me to say but hard to do - i know ) If he had broken a arm and it effected you in some bad way - would you then blame your self or feel like shit because of it? or would you take control and work out what to do and fix it? This is what you need to do now if your ever to get any where with him. Pick your self up and be strong for both of you. ( please realize we do feel empathy for you - but some one has to take charge ) Get him into the docs for some good old therapy and STOP asking questions for now ( he doesn't know why he's a dick to you - it probably does not make sense to him either now ) Now to some of your worries about not knowing and him loving you etc.... I truly believe he does love you and that he now is sorry but i also believe this is something that he does not know where it's coming from. Check my posts on here lol, if i thought for one minute that it was any thing but this i would of said so up front. Lastly i am a god believer and we will pray for the both of you in this matter. Please look after yourself as you go though this and always remember there are those of us that are willing to be a sounding board for you to vent if or when you need too.

louisvillemojo ... You sound pretty desperate, so I'll weigh-in here a bit, not that I feel overly qualified in this instance (with any direct experience with your current situation). I have dealt with chronic pain however, so you have my sympathy there, and just about anybody here should be able to see your need for some relief. I feel for your kids. Having come from a broken home (several times over, before I was a teenager) I can only suggest that anything you can do to get yourself some relief, and also give them a clue as to what is going on (in a way that is appropriate for their age) will certainly help in the long-run. As you mentioned, they gotta know something is up. They must be really scared too. Constant exposure to fear is not a healthy thing. There have been some good points posted above. Most importantly being that you should not blame yourself for his actions. Guilt will not help the healing process at all. You mentioned that you "tried searching for cheating swingers, but couldnt find anything". I get that this is an unpopular niche. I applaud your effort. That is a step in the right direction. My first thought when I read your first post in this thread was that it would help if you could find some kind of (live) support group / network / community. This BBS is a good outlet, but it cannot substitute for sympathetic face-to-face contact, especially that will include your kids. You definitely sound like you can use some "experience, strength, and hope"... so I urge you to keep looking for that. I'm sure there is some help nearby. You mentioned therapy. For sure I would pursue that. If he will not participate, at least do that for yourself. My next suggestion I make with some nervous caution. Not sure what the rules are on this BBS for this, and I generally shy away from "giving advice". (For this reading this with curiosity, I was in an Al-Anon ACOA program for a while.) But here it goes: I am not sure if you have any spiritual / faith / religious affiliation. If you are, with any popular / main-stream "church", then it is unlikely your "lifestyle choices" will be embraced (as you have already experienced with your "cheating swingers" search). I do know of one organization that will (or should) welcome you, and offer you some support, that will also be able to include your kids. The umbrella group is the Unitarian Universalist Association. Find them at UUA.org ... I did a search and there are 3 fellowships / congregations near you (which is pretty impressive to me). Exploring their website(s) a bit should give you some confidence that they are worth visiting. Look it up using your zip-code at: https://www.uua.org/find This is a very diverse group / community, and they are very welcoming to "alternative lifestyle" type folks. Try visiting or speaking to each one of the three. (Trust me, not all UUA affiliated congregations exist equally.) Get an audience with the minister or lead lay-person who helps folks in your situation. After contacting / visiting each of the three, you will know for sure if you can get help / relief there. I suspect you will. If nothing else you will (or should be) accepted there, and find some sympathetic ears. I'm pretty confident that you will find someone there who has direct experience with your situation, that can offer you some strength and hope for how to cope with it (for immediate relief), and even recover from it (over the long-term). The emphasis on the UUA is community. It is easier to heal in a group situation, especially if you can get direct contact with folks that can relate directly to your experience. Your kids will likely find a healthy outlet there a well. Here's hoping you can indeed find some Peace. Be Well.... bud :-)

Hi 1st off It's not about you - yes it hurts you because of what he's doing - but again it's not any thing about you or any lack of ( put the word in that fits ) Actually i really doubt it's about sex also - it just happens to be that now. From what you have posted about him i would be looking at any loss that he has had with in the last two years, or the feeling of loss. It seem to me that he is tiring to regain some type of feeling ( again it's not you ) some call it a middle aged crisis - but i think this maybe more then that. So what to do. Again do not blame your self - you have very little to do with what is going on with him in this - once you understand this you will be able to help your husband back to who he is. The man you love and want to be with. It may be a long road though. So you have to deiced if your willing to do it. If you are willing. 1. get all checks from the doctors - clean up your health for both of you. 2. Talk to him ( with out reacting ) Tell him your on his side but will not except his behavior as it is detrimental to your marriage and both of your health and must stop and it hurts you also. 3. get him to a good doctor that deals with mental health, no it does not mean he is crackers lol they are just better trained to find out what the problem is ( he may not know himself ) 4. make a date night for the two of you ( do not have sex - not yet any way on this date night ) this night is about re connecting and showing love to each other though - gentle touching, kissing and sharing why you love each other Not Bonking lol. This reconciliation is very important as it will help with the feelings that you both carry now. in fact if all you do is one thing then this is it. The above are only the start of your walk in this but if you want your marriage to last then start, It will be hard - i know how i would feel if it were me going though this - but to actually go though it would be near bloody murder i would think - But it can be done and done well. Good luck to you and him Please let us know if you have any other thoughts or needs.

I can see where this would kind of discourage first timers from visiting, but as we were told the first time we visited a nudest resort 'after 10 minutes, you will feel out of place wearing cloths'...and we did. The hardest part of going to a club is your imagination. It will be better than you imagine and none of the things you are afraid of having happen will. Don't overthink or over-analyze things. Deep breath and take that first step. Make sure that you both understand your rules and limits, proceed with no expectations (other then enjoying an evening out with your hubby), and have a good time watching things you never thought you would see in real life...and then report back to us next week. Personally, I don't know if we would have been able to start with a 'towels only' club for our first experience. It kind of makes running out of the club a bit more awkward once we see that there are naked people there...

We had our very first dp two nights ago. It was cowgirl, the other guy was on bottom (he is huge girth), and I slid in the back side. It was tough getting it in even though I am fairly long and thin. I think the pillow under the other guy's butt would have helped, because the angle of entry was just too low for me. I kept sliding into her pussy, which was very fun. I didn't stay in there because I wasn't sure how the other guy felt about the contact. I will certainly ask before our next one because I think it was much easier to pull off and would feel amazing. That said, once I had the angle down pat and went to town, she was cumming within a minute. It was a lot of work for me, but any orgasm she has makes it worth the effort!

Ed here-- Let me guess, all your software is pirated, you have the cheapest computer you can find, and you steal all your music and most of your movies and you think tipping isn't important. Sorry, I'm off topic. But to request free sites on a site that works hard to provide value, mostly at no charge, is a bit disingenuous.