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I acquired the use of a private airplane that we flew to Vegas many years ago with a couple we were friendly with. The wife was with him in the back seat and she was beside me in the front seat. I don’t think we were in the air for more that five minutes before the two of them were removing each other’s clothes in the back seat. As our passions rose with our furtive glances into the back seat. When they culminated the act of my wife’s initiating him into the mile-high club I set about to initiate her into the same club. After she undressed she pulled my pants down around my ankles. I moved my seat all the way back and she climbed onboard. As I defied the laws of gravity by pushing the yoke back and forth, she rose off me when I descended and was slammed back down on me when I climbed as I joyously initiated her into the mile-high club.

"Was it better than me?" "No, but I'm going to keep looking and trying."

Hello and welcome! Is there anything you can recommend regarding the photos? Profile photo(s) act as a teaser. You don't need to show anything that you're not happy with. For a man, and particularly if that's your style, 'upper floor' type clothes (white shirt, tie, suit or a waistcoat) can look incredibly hot (and forgiving on a few extra pounds). Or you can even have a photo where you only make an eye contact, like this one. For a woman, legs in fishnet, heels, cleavage... Of course you will need photos with faces etc for later correspondence which will have to be more revealing. Here you can try to capture fun times - a nice dinner, being on holiday somewhere nice, sports, concerts etc. Something to prompt a response/conversation. Of course you can start swapping erotic images Is there something we could say/done in our profiles that will help? See above Pictures speak louder than words That's the universal truth. For the text/info bit, it would help to know which website you're on. As an example, fabswingers is rather different to sdc.com Is it better to start out going to a club and are certain nights better for newbies? I prefer clubs, but I have to say that online has worked well for me too. In clubs, couples-only nights are more relaxed, so if you're a bit self conscious then that might work better for you. Try to find a club that is well attended, and/or a specific event that attracts a lot of people - this will give you the best chances to enjoy the night and to see what it's like. Also, there's no better motivation to become gym-fit (or maybe even fit as fuck) than swinging

I see that you’ve made a new post on this subject, I don’t know why unless you’re trying valiantly to find somebody to reinforce your belief that you’re not being a fool. If that’s the case you’re not going to care much for the rest of my reply I’m afraid. There are so many things that I see wrong in what you’ve told us that I’m just going to go by the numbers and tell you what it sounds like to me. 1. You sound very insecure to me, it appears you are trying to be worldly and understanding but deep down this is bothering you. You’re looking for validation of what you know is a very bad situation. 2. In this post you casually mention that your wife originally met this man when she was in Europe several months ago. Then from that time until she reunited with her lover in Africa a month ago he pursued her online and by phone. You didn’t mention it, but you must have seen while this was going on how her attention focused more on him and less on you. That’s because you’ve allowed the contact that’s allowed you wife to fall in love with another man. 3. Regardless of the excuses that you’ve been given for her refusing to have sex with you after her return, it seems to me that the true reason for her not being intimate with you is because she’s found a man that she wants to be with. She appears to be home to tie up loose ends before returning to her lover for good. She may still have feelings for you but there seems to be another man in her life now that she truly wants to be with. If she was worried about STD’s she would have been tested on the day she returned, STD’s in this case is merely an excuse for not being sexually active with a man she no longer wants to be sexually active with. 4. You sound more into the racial aspect of this than she does. You see the enticing aspect of their union, while she only sees a man that rock’s her world. 5. You understand that it’s not normal behavior for a spouse to have hidden FB accounts for her to correspond privately with her lover. I think you’re just desperately searching for somebody to tell you that there’s nothing wrong with that, well I’m afraid you won’t hear that from me. The bottom line is that if there wasn’t anything to hide in her correspondence then they wouldn’t have been hidden from you. I’m not talking about the times that you’ve caught her talking to her lover when she blows it off with, “it’s (???) honey would you like to say hello.” I’m talking about the times you haven’t caught her corresponding with him when the conversation is more likely, “honey I can’t wait to be with you forever.” To be honest I think you two should be seeking some professional help before it’s too late. You don’t need help from a swinger’s web site you need somebody to wake you up to wants going on here before you find yourself being the ex-husband to the woman you love. This isn’t swinging, this is a marriage coming apart.

If she is saying it is okay and you are saying it's okay, then why not give it a try? If either of you don't enjoy the experience, then don't do it again. She's been open enough to tell you about this fantasy, it's something that she wants to see, then give this one to her (and you might enjoy it yourself). Just keep talking with her and make sure she doesn't have any reason to feel threatened by the 'other woman'.

Time is so important in human relationships. Being rejected in person on the first meet must hurt like hell, but being rejected later on, and processing it in the comfort of your own home is not that bad. Being rejected 'at this time' is different to being categorically rejected, 'once and for all'. Also who's to say that some time, some place you will not be attracted to these people? That's always a possibility in the future. You never know.

This hobby is a minefield of hard to read intentions. Maybe direct but polite we’re not a match is best.

I think I read somewhere that the pineapple has a place among "black rings on the right hand" and anklets as far a jewelry goes. or silly stuff like upside down in a shopping cart as far as a signifier of "I am a swinger" What I am waiting for is a cell phone app for the same purpose. It could use bluetooth to pick up other phones with the same app. With a limited range say 10-15 feet it could make Big Box stores and grocery shopping fun. BEEP BEEP BEEP

We commonly get responses from the husband that he would play with my wife, but their wife is not interested in me. Has happened at least three times. I am Hwp and above average looking. A little jarring.

Does anyone else think "VegasNudeCouple" may be the coolest couple on here?!?! Thanks for all of your input guys, very hot and honest!