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Hi! We are also very (very) new to this whole thing and we did discover something interesting. It started on a vacation to Florida where we stumbled upon a nude beach. My husband and I had never been to one (or ever thought about it). At first I was sooooo nervous at the thought of taking off my clothes in public! What I realized when we were there was that everyone else was naked so it was more normal to take my clothes off than leave them on! Same thing in a swing club. When we entered the back area and everyone was touching and playing, we attracted less attention when we engaged in playtime of our own. I think that's my take on it. Only you think and feel it's weird, the people there think it's totally normal! That thought process should take the edge off. Good luck!

Would love to know the pros and cons of these situations from bi guys.

Although the late Mrs. Alura I had only a little experience, Pacergirl, I can tell you what seemed to work best. It's best not to make this an early experience on a play-date. Take a load in your pussy from both men, one at a time. You need to be well-lubricated. Rest and have a drink before going for The Main Event. When the men are ready again, or sooner if you have two unused men at hand, do what you have to do to get Man Number One seated on a couch with you impaled in reverse-cowgirl fashion. Lie back in his arms. Raise and spread your knees, resting your feet on Man Number One's thighs. Man Number Two, if you chose properly, will open your labia with his tongue, visiting your clit often as Man Number One pumps you. Their goal will be to make you come. Keep your guys informed of your progress. Just before the climax starts, Mrs. Alura was likely to say,"NOW, I WANT BOTH COCKS NOW!!!" Man Number Two will raise and lay his penis atop Man Number One's, who will reach around your body and use Man Number Two's cock to press his own toward the back of your vagina. Point your toes at the chandelier, relax your vagina and the second cock will glide in for you. Let us know how it goes!

For both of us, it's a "mental" stimulation as well as to my two "friends with benefits." Be it with them or the small, private "club," all have been tested and are done so at least a couple times per year and after knowing them and their life "situations" as well as commitment to keeping it within the group. Over the years, I believe I've learned a few things about the male sexual "psychology" and both my husband and close "sexual associated" agree that men are very sensitive about their genitals and their semen. While I make no judgment for those women who are "grossed out" by semen, men are almost always elated with a sexual encounter with a woman who actually appreciates and wants their semen. Don't get me wrong, I do NOT particularly appreciate the taste of it, but I do want it in my body, will swallow it, respect it, and thank him/them for their "gift." In my experience, men who know you WANT their semen, when you're grateful for it, make better and more confident lovers!

As a male we is brought in as a third, it is fun to see how much the couple enjoys it and often how strong and loving the relationship is between the couple I have the honor to join. It really is a pleasure.

If everyone is enjoying themselves, who cares if it's 'gay' or not?

What on Earth? 2 in the vag???owe and how??

We've been on 8 LS cruises - 3 of them on Bliss. What should we expect? The Independence is a larger ship so there will be about 1900 couples on board. There will be a mix of those in the lifestyle, nudists and couples that are neither but just enjoy a sexy vibe for the week. Expect a "no pressure" environment where "no" means no. You will not see orgies and open sex unless you go to the playrooms. The only locations where sex is allowed are the playrooms and your cabin. Pool is clothing optional and most will be nude. Covering is required to go to your cabin and other areas of the ship. Night time themes allow for topless in the clubs but once again, you need to be covered outside the club area. What is the average age? We are in our 50’s, are there attendees in that range? There is the full spectrum of ages with a few in low 30's, most in 40-50's, some in 60's and a few in their 70's. We should all be so lucky to be enjoying life in our 70's like that. What things do they do to facilitate introductions? Lots of Meet and Greets during the day and many at 5 PM at various bars/lounges. All will be posted in the daily schedule you receive in your cabin each evening for the following day. One thing that is common though is that if you wait for someone to talk to you, you will not meet a lot of people. Put yourself out there and make the introduction. We know that is a push for some people but also required to get the most out of the week. What are lessons learned that would help us have a better cruise? As mentioned before, have some business size cards made up to hand out. We put our picture on it, first names, contact email (one we use only for this fun) and any profile/site info if you have a profile on sites like SLS and Kasidie. Some print their cabin number on it but we don't. We write the cabin # on the back so we can use the cards for future cruises. Go with no expectations except to have a great time together. Establish your limits prior to the cruise and communicate them to those when it looks like you might take it further with a couple. Drink Package - they are expensive but many get it. It will run about $500 per person. Plan on 8-9 drinks per day to break even. Keep in mind port days you will be off the ship so you will have fewer drinks that day. We pay as we go.... and spend way less than $1000 for the week for booze. If they offer clothing optional excursions and they sound interesting to you, sign up early as those are the ones that go fast and may have a capacity limit. You are allowed two bottles of wine to bring on board to your cabin. If you choose to bring some, it must be in your carry-on bag to go through security. Plan to consume the wine in your cabin or you will be charged a corking fee in the dining room. Arrival to the port city: We always arrive 2 days prior to the ship departing because it takes us all day flying just to get to FL. Some risk arriving the morning the ship departs. Unless you are driving, there are a number of things that can go wrong flying and losing luggage. I fly almost every week of the year and have a lot of air time so I don't leave things to chance when it comes to a cruise like this. When you pay $4,000 for the cruise, the ship is not going to wait and it will be up to you to get to the next port if you want to get on board. Let us know if you have other questions. We have 2 more LS cruises booked for this year.

Rules usually evolve, this is normal. They are usually set at a point where someone is concerned that there could be a problem...but all too often when you get there you find out it really isn't a problem. Just remember, do not change the rules when you are in a situation. Discuss rule changes in a non-sexual environment with just the two of you. Oh, and even if you could plan this, it almost always goes off script as soon as it starts. Have fun and let us know how things went for you both. Good luck.

Consent implies the ability to make an informed decision. It evolves over time. It demands an understanding of the consequences of the decision, both short term and long term. I can ask most nine year olds whether they would like to have an ice cream cone, and then ask whether they want vanilla or chocolate. Those who are lactose intolerant or have juvenile diabetes know the consequences of eating ice cream, consequences that do not affect the population at large. They are in a position to consent to the ice cream. Sex and other intimate behaviors also have consequences. The problem is that the landscape of intimacy is decidedly unfamiliar to young people. They do not know they have the right to say "no" at any time. They are unfamiliar with the physical and emotional consequences of intimacy. They rarely understand the risks of pregnancy or of sexually transmitted infections. Above all, they do not understand the connections among intimacy, vulnerability, and power. The fact that there exists an "age of consent" is intended to provide some assurance that they understand what it means to consent to sex and other intimate behaviors. That assurance is weak at best. Society owes it to young people that sex and intimacy should begin on terms they understand, and is not pressured. Age matters. However, understanding and reasoning matter more.

I enjoy just about any position, but spend most of my time on my back, naked, with my legs spread and up in the air. Seems most natural/comfortable for both parties in an MF situation.