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What are the real, true thoughts (mostly from men) on the “Mommy tummy” most women have? This can attest to stretch marks, a little loose skin etc. from pregnancies over the years. My husband says he doesn’t notice it much or pay much attention to it. Obviously women will critique ourselves the most and we notice it far more extensively on our own body’s, but for husbands/play partners, in an honest opinion, does it bother you? Do you even notice it all, is it a slight turn off or not at all just something that’s there but not worth a second thought. I just don’t fathom has it cannot NOT be bothersome to those looking at it. I work out daily, am in pretty decent shape (26 inch waist) but that dreaded skin is still there. It drives me nuts, and oh the jiggle it has when I’m on top of my husband trying to enjoy myself...when I feel it begin to move, I immediately focus on that and hiding it. Please don’t say “believe your husband” because despite me knowing he is saying the truth on his stance, he is also blinded by the love he has for me and the fact that it’s my skin that gave him children. However, that does not make it a desirable attribute. It makes it there.

We have a "red neck cabana" in our back yard, it's 3 easy up canopies and the frame of a green house. We've completely tarped it off and it has 3 "rooms" in it. One has a 6 person inflatable hot tub, one a massage table and a swing, and one is a lounge area with a bar and seating. It's a "no haters zone" no bad mojo, no negative thoughts, no bitching and moaning, only a good, happy, passionate environment. I'm working on this area to get it ready for warmer weather and will be putting a pool up also. We would like to host 3 or 4 couples once a month, a den of passion that allows no anger! A place to feel no judgement, no fear, to receive good vibrations and leave happy and relaxed. Anyone have any suggestions on how to go about finding these 3-4 couples to enjoy our monthly retreat?

We were in the mood to play and went hunting. We chose to go to a bar a half hour drive from our house so we wouldn't run into any former playmates. We walk in and searched the bar to sit next to a possible prospect when we see a former playmate. Our eyes met. There was no pretending. We were there to find somebody new but seeing him was kind of sexy. We sat next to him and proceeded to get drunk. We were both polite. It was a surprise to run into him in a bar so far from home. It was in my mind and I'm sure it was in her mind about doing it with him again. Mission accomplished. He was o.k. but not mind blowing. It was the reason we were looking for someone new. We were both scanning the room as we took turns talking to him. We ended up doing it with him again. And again it was a less than mind blowing experience for her. Anyone else run in to a former playmate unexpectedly?

Hi everyone, I'm new here although I've been reading these boards for about 6 months. Just wanted to get experienced swingers view of my problem, although my post may be a little long, please bear with me Well I've been married 5 yrs but been with him since high school. He was my first boyfriend. We do not have children. Now, I'm not an awful person but I am doing something horrible - I'm cheating on him, totally without his knowledge or consent. I won't go into my many reasons why as no excuse can possibly cover why I am doing this, but I will say I am incredibly unhappy in my marriage and if I was more courageous, I would leave him. Now my boyfriend (for want of a better term) is also married and has a family. Unlike me, he has cheated many times before. He has asked me to go with him to a local swingers group. I am really interested in this, not for him but for me. I want to experience things I haven't been able to before. Before I met him, sex was always painful for me and an orgasm during intercourse was absolutely unheard of. So I want to try it with others. So my question is, would people decide not to play with us because we are doing so without our spouses consent or knowledge??

I wouldn't decline necessarily, no. I would likely prefer a non-cheater to a cheater, all other things being equal, but they rarely are! Life isn't that simple.

This is one of those things that I think is hard to describe to the opposite sex in a way they can total relate to, since until you've got a vagina/penis of your own, it's hard to fully relate. Mrs cplnuswing loves the feel of a penis cumming inside her, and will admit that although condom sex is still fun and good, it's just not quite the same without feeling the cum inside her at the end. I've tried to get her to describe it for me, and like others have said, she loves the pulsing the most, and for the cum itself, she says she can feel it but not in the way us guys might think, more of a gentle flood than a squirt, but that part is the icing on a very yummy cake that she likes very much

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We don't use the term gang bang we use club rub! Much nicer connotation!

Firstly, I am so sorry you experienced this. I am a survivor of rape. I know the feelings you are having. I half heartedly tried to stop my rapist but fear was my main driver and I felt safer to just go along then to stand up for myself. No matter how you label it, it was wrong. You and your rights were violated and you are going to need some time, love, and support to make peace with what happened. I have been sexually assaulted by four different parties. The first my grandfather as a toddler and young child, the second my stepfather as a young teenager, the third my cousin as a teenager and the fourth by a group of men as a young adult. I have seekes justice for the rape by my stepfather. The court process was the hardest thing I ever had to do and he even plead guilty. I never bothered with anyone else because it was just so hard emotionally and I was so fragile for so many years. The assault as a young adult was fueled by alcohol. I was too drunk to consent. I ended up in a situation I would have never agreed to otherwise and I struggled for years blaming myself. But I know in my heart it was wrong. They knew it was wrong too as some things happened after to protect themselves. I hope the best for you and much healing. I’d stay away from swinging for now. Sex was a big trigger for me. I’d have flashbacks all the time. I’d think it would be best to be with your husband if something like that were to happen for you. Feel free to contact me with any questions. I am an open book!

How about: not as many as I would have liked to, but more than I probably want to admit to a room full of people.

I’ve been sexually active for 55 years, starting in the early years of the so-called sexual revolution. About thirty years ago I took an inventory of weomen I’d had sex with at least once. I kept remembering additional partners. When the number got over 100 I stopped the exercise. I’d only had a bit of swinging experience at that point, an MFM with a couple who were friends and before that an MFMF with my then wife and the woman who 16 years (and after a second marriage)became my forever wife. I’ve never again tried to count the total, but all told I expect the number is approaching 200. On average that’s a bit less than four new partners per year. Of course since I started swinging most years have had more than my overall average.

Yes, this topic is sensitive. And yes, it took on a direction that I never intended. My purpose was to search for someone who had been through a similar situation and get advice. I did get some good advice about therapy and stepping out of LS for a while (or maybe forever), and especially validation that it wasn't my fault (as that small voice.inside still screams that I could have done more to fight him off). I do not think anyone was marginalizing or condoning the guy's behavior. Whether or not it met legal requirements for rape is not really the issue. I am not dragging my family into a he said/she said legal battle. I have warned the people I know and cannot take on the responsibility of ruining my life even further by taking this into a court room, with no real evidence besides my memory and account of things.

Girly, I was a detective and worked vice, narcotics and sex crimes. I know the description of a rape when I hear it and your story fits it perfectly. Every rape victim I ever interviewed ask herself exactly the same questions you are. There are things you will never forget about this terribly traumatic experience which was compounded by the stds. Houston is a huge metro area and I'm certain there is more than one rape crisis hotline and/or many groups dedicated to assisting rape victims. I cannot emphasize strongly enough that you should seek counseling. Otherwise, this guy and this incident will haunt you and your marriage in ways you've yet to imagine. Please take my advice and talk to someone qualified to help ease your pain. On another note, similar things HAVE happened in swinging situations in our experience but by and large, this is a VERY rare occurrence among swingers.

Why do younger men appreciate older women? "Because they don't swell, they don't tell, and they appreciate it like Hell." —Somebody