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She’s a home run with me! Lol

Our first playing was in separate rooms. It may have been a little too much wine. The night was fabulous. Most will say swinging is just sex, this was romantic sex. We made love. No I don’t love him so please don’t say swinging isn’t about love. I know the difference. We had sex in the same room as my husband and his wife. That was sex. It was much different. I am not interested in women. A FMF is not fun for me. Being with two men was meh. I also don’t need to watch my husband. There is something about being alone with a new partner.

it sounds like your hart is just not in it any more - this will make a big difference to how you see and even taste others. Why are you still in the ls if this is how you feel - just for the wife? you know just because you are a swinger does not mean you must stay one - like other have said find something else to do - it's ok to of been there and done that. Are you and your wife able to stop swinging - it's sounds like only one of you are getting anything out of it - and for us that would be the time to stop because we are in this together not just so one can have a good time. Lastly - if you are emotionally let down while doing this as one of your post says then - tell your wife the whole story and see what she says - i think any wife or GF that really knew there SO was not really happy in the LS would opt out as well - but that's just our thoughts. maybe not.

Married Couple ready to enter the Lifestyle... I’m having some reservations after window shopping profiles, some males don’t show their member, they just show the female. Then there’s the hung like a horse guy comparing flashlights and what not to his pride and joy! Now, is being undersized in comparison, 5 inches, going to be an issue? My wife seems to likes it! LOL I understand she’ll have fun with the larger version mentioned above, and I have no problems with that, in fact, I can’t wait to hear her screaming out in ecstasy playing with a bull! So, my worries, is this going to make it harder finding playmates? Playmates that you “want” to play with? Considering other female being use to the “larger” package, is she going to be interested in playing with a smaller one?!? When does penis size come into the conversation? Or, am I being a typical guy focusing in on penis envy?? Want my wife to have the best options available seeing how we want to play with couples... Threesomes, no brainer... Thanks in advance for your advice and commits...

On occasions I view some vanilla family and parenting boards, which are populated primarily by women. Sometimes there will be a thread about nonmonogamy, like "my husband wants to swap with another couple," or "I want a threesome," etc. (The replies fall into three general categories: "We do that - try it," "We don't do that but have fun," and "Just thinking about that is despicable.") All understandable except the few who reply, "I used to ........... (have threesomes, swap, do anal, give blowjobs), but now I'm married and he better not even bring up the topic or I'll kill him." Some women say their husbands don't even know about their wild past sex life. To me, how can you not discuss an important part of your past (and present and future) with someone who is supposed to be closest to you? How can you deny your mate at least a discussion of giving him his fantasies? Another topic was about not going to bed mad. Sounds like a good idea if you can pull it off, but in our poly family the dynamic is different. If one of us is mad at someone in the family (we're all lovers except the guys), that person will go to bed with someone else. Two advantages: the other person will talk some sense into you, and you can still have sex without thinking you're giving in.

Is something precluding you from making the first move? We went to a party not to long ago. Mrs Doc was wearing a dress with a front zipper the length of the dress. As happens, several couples were hanging around in the kitchen. Conversation was friendly but not overtly sexual. The zipper was part way down exposing some cleavage. As we talked with the others, I'd lower the zip a couple of inches and Mrs D would turn to her left or right to talk to people on either. It didn't take long before one of the women had he mouth on her nipple. I moved behind her and lowered the zipper a bit more. I then moved behind the woman who was licking Mrs Doc's boob and started to fondle her. The husband took the hint, finished the zipper and after a few more minutes of for play the four of us and another couple from the kitchen ended up in a bedroom. Sometimes you just have to get the party started!!

I am not trying to be a smart ass but please tell me where this went bad. You are using your wife and this other guy to fulfill your cuckold fantasy. Sounds like it went well for you. I used to be a long term play partner for a couple just like you. He would arrange all of these cuckold situations for me and the wife to act out. At times he would leave the two of us alone when I came to visit them in their home, other times I was invited over to their home while he was at work, and I was even allowed to spend the weekend with her once when they were on vacation but he returned home. Eventually, this created problems for the three of us. The wife and I became really good friends and I started viewing it as more of a poly dynamic than anything else. Especially since I ended up becoming one of his close friends and they started involving me in their personal affairs. However, as the relationship progressed I noticed that the husband would exert his position of power as her husband whenever he started to feel uncomfortable. He was never willing to travel to me or allow her to travel to see me alone. If I bought her sexy clothes she would not wear them for fear of disappointing him. If I invited the two of them to go to events with me he always said no and being the good wife that she was she would rarely opt to do anything unless he said yes. I put an end to the relationship because I was fully aware that the husband was using me to fulfill his cuckold fantasies but was unwilling to admit to his wife what his true intentions were. She had told me and a friend that she was no longer romantically attracted to her husband but didn't have the courage to tell him. Also, she told me that many of the men she had been with were because she wanted to be a good wife to her husband but given the choice she wouldn't have had sex with them. The whole situation became very uncomfortable and awkward for me. The point I am trying to make is one that has already been stated. Be careful what you ask for.

Interesting to see this thread get resurrected - We might add to the discussion, again, noting that we're just so grateful to get a response -- ANY response or interest! -- to our profile, that OF COURSE we'll reply, even if not interested.

Okay, so now you know everything not to do, it can only get better (seriously, it can't get worse). Don't waste a bunch of time emailing and texting, you will learn more about them in 5 minutes in person than 5 years of email and texts. Don't plan on playing on the first meeting. This takes the pressure off so you can take some time and see if you are all a match. If when you meet, it's not a match, (politely) leave. It isn't going to get any better. Too much of anything is too much...drugs, alcohol, whatever, is not going to lead to a good experience. I know when you are just starting having a bird in the hand, but as you found out the wrong bird is worse then no bird. Learn from this, give the wife some time to recover, and then try again but with this new knowledge to help. As for your wife needing to get 'messy to get involved', it sounds like she needs to be able to trust you more so she can let her barriers down. Just a thought. Anyways, sorry to hear it went south, but try again and we wish you success.

We just bought a new place outside of town and are doing a full gut and remodel, We have a little land now and are putting our plans in place. We have the pool, are hot tub shopping and are contemplating play space. We are planning a 32x48' garage/race shop and are thinking of building a loft over it for play area with separate access so my toys and tools are safe. Still debating but leaning that way.

If your wife is out of your league, that might be why

We want a hot tub but don't want it out in the open due to roaming outside cats. I'd be interested to see this and other pseudo enclosed outside areas. ?

Join SLS or SDC or whatever site has the most people in your area (top of page on menu bar: Find Swingers). Create a profile, ADD PICTURES (pictures are a must) and start looking. Don't waste time with too many emails and texting, set up a vanilla meeting sooner than later (let them know it is just a meeting with NO play planned...no play = less pressure). You will find out more another couple in 5 minutes in person than 5 years in email and texts (and you find out if they are real and both parties on board). If everyone is in agreement, then you can plan a second meeting that involves play. As you meet more locals, you will find you are in a bigger group and have more connections and chances to find other couples. Simple. On paper, but there's a bunch of work that goes on in between each step. Good luck!

Sex is entertainment. We have both gone to movies with other people.

I was 27 and dated a woman that was 32 and very sexually skilled. I was very straight and conservative and never thought about eating my own come. I had just come off her divorce and was very horny and this sexy blonde wanted to take me to bed. She let me screw her missionary style under the sheets but then when I came she didn’t have an orgasm so I pulled out. Before I could rollover she pushed my shoulders forcibly making me get under the sheets and go down on her. I could actually smell and see my semen all over her labia lips and dripping from her dilated vagina. She grabbed the back of my head forcing my mouth into her crotch. I not only cleaned up the mess getting a taste of my own come for the first time but she insisted on me giving an orgasm with my mouth. I had a mustache which was soaked with semen and when I came up to give her a kiss she was actually turned on and got a taste of my own come and her juices in my mouth. I quickly got over any homophobic thoughts about swallowing come since it was my own and definitely turned on my new girlfriend so from then on I had to go down on her after screwing. She taught me to respect a woman’s body and if I’m going to use her for sex she deserves to have an orgasm whether it be from my cock or from my mouth.

Was that like a Motel 6 or a better brand?? If it was a privately owned franchise hotel rather than one managed by the chain, it might explain the attitude. We had a similar experience at a Hampton Inn that we had used regularly. Hampton has a policy of honoring legitimate complaints by comping the night. We used the hotel because of its proximity to a swingers club. Unfortunately, the hotel was also close to a rather seedy neighborhood and had begun to let the upkeep sink to close to the level of the neighborhood and they began to permit conduct that would normally not be acceptable in a Hilton brand. After our third complaint about noise (faulty ac unit and drunks roaming the halls at 3:00 am), dirty rooms, and a non functioning shower we were told by the manager that we were no longer welcome to stay there. When we contacted Hilton Honors we were told that the Hampton in question was not company owned, we received an apology, several thousand reward points and a weekend voucher to any US Hilton hotel. Now, when we go to that club, we stay at a HI Express a few miles away that IS company owned and we've never had a complaint about the hotel. Prior to this, we thought that if the hotel bore the name of a big brand that it was run by that brand. Oh well, live and learn.

Dude, you're right there with the rest of us. According to Medical News Today, the average erect penis size is 5.1 inches. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/271647.php Mine is 5.2 inches, fully stretched, and not once has a woman complained to me about it. And do you know how easy it is to photoshop a flashlight? If your wife hasn't already told you, it's not how much you have, it's how you use it. Don't fixate on your size, just try to pleasure the woman you're with, you'll be fine.