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In my 30+ years in and out of the LS, I've met many couples that started swapping with couples but eventually chose the hotwife or cuckold lifestyle. Not one of those couples survived. I was close to a few of the husbands who confided in me and was able to observe the dynamics and witness the slow self-destruction of those relationships. Just like a drug addict in a dysfunctional relationship will say he/she absolutely loves their spouse, those couples, particularly the cuckold couples, are convinced that they have love for each other when in reality, even though their emotions feel exactly like love, they have nothing to do with it.

O-H Me too, born in Dayton.

Just give it time. Yes it's not what you hoped for, but you got some 'lessons learnt' out of it and, truth be told, nothing horrendous have happened. I would park it for now, then in a month or two, if you both feel like it, go to a club or a social with the view to just watch (which is exactly what most couples do initially). Then if anything more than that happens, it's a bonus. Watching can be fun and a huge turn on, and your standards can go pretty low if you just watch lol

For most guys it depends what their options are. Even if they don't like bumping balls or sloppy seconds, if there's only one woman around and that's what she wants, he'll do it just to get in. Or even if there is other women around but she's a woman he's really been wanting to stick it in, he'll do it on her terms.

This is true. Without even having looked at the actual profile to know it's a single male, with a lot of them you get this vibe after just the first few words of their message...and that's the one that just don't come right out and say it by using it as their opening line. What I mean to say is that experience is the teacher that will allow you to distinguish a married male from a not-married male. I will remind everybody that cheating females also exist.

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I am not trying to be a smart ass but please tell me where this went bad. You are using your wife and this other guy to fulfill your cuckold fantasy. Sounds like it went well for you. I used to be a long term play partner for a couple just like you. He would arrange all of these cuckold situations for me and the wife to act out. At times he would leave the two of us alone when I came to visit them in their home, other times I was invited over to their home while he was at work, and I was even allowed to spend the weekend with her once when they were on vacation but he returned home. Eventually, this created problems for the three of us. The wife and I became really good friends and I started viewing it as more of a poly dynamic than anything else. Especially since I ended up becoming one of his close friends and they started involving me in their personal affairs. However, as the relationship progressed I noticed that the husband would exert his position of power as her husband whenever he started to feel uncomfortable. He was never willing to travel to me or allow her to travel to see me alone. If I bought her sexy clothes she would not wear them for fear of disappointing him. If I invited the two of them to go to events with me he always said no and being the good wife that she was she would rarely opt to do anything unless he said yes. I put an end to the relationship because I was fully aware that the husband was using me to fulfill his cuckold fantasies but was unwilling to admit to his wife what his true intentions were. She had told me and a friend that she was no longer romantically attracted to her husband but didn't have the courage to tell him. Also, she told me that many of the men she had been with were because she wanted to be a good wife to her husband but given the choice she wouldn't have had sex with them. The whole situation became very uncomfortable and awkward for me. The point I am trying to make is one that has already been stated. Be careful what you ask for.

Interesting to see this thread get resurrected - We might add to the discussion, again, noting that we're just so grateful to get a response -- ANY response or interest! -- to our profile, that OF COURSE we'll reply, even if not interested.

We want to come over to your new house to play...but I want to play downstairs...

Our first playing was in separate rooms. It may have been a little too much wine. The night was fabulous. Most will say swinging is just sex, this was romantic sex. We made love. No I don’t love him so please don’t say swinging isn’t about love. I know the difference. We had sex in the same room as my husband and his wife. That was sex. It was much different. I am not interested in women. A FMF is not fun for me. Being with two men was meh. I also don’t need to watch my husband. There is something about being alone with a new partner.

We opted for a non permanent structure, we also have a brand new 40' Toy Hauler! We've used "Easy Up" shade shelters and tarps as walls, cable ties are the best thing since sliced bread! Also a large dome shaped green house frame and a small one! It's grown and we are about to get hit with a winter storm, which is unusual in our area, so I'm fretting about my baby! It's held up in one form or another for two years. In the winter we hang "disaster blankets" inside with zip ties! as insulation and have the propane heater. Adding on as soon as Mother Nature allows! I did mention "redneck" didn't I?

I have been brought up being a nudist and always been nude at beaches even at normal beaches after I got some shapes. It was only a short time when I was in my mid-teens I felt a bid embarrassed being nude. We go on vacation to Cap d’Agde in France every year and family/friends are nude at all time. For me it is natural being nude, but it can also be sexual

She’s a home run with me! Lol

I often do not learn that a prospective play partner is a "bad choice" until after she and I get horizontal and start into doing the wild thing. And I strongly suspect that some of these same women tell their husbands or significant-others while riding on the way back home, "that Michael was a disappointment." My wife and I do agree, however, that we will have no regrets about having "tryout" sex. People enough stick around in our lives to make the effort worthwhile. Have you and your wife discussed ever going to the kind of house parties where a husband and a wife can go off on their own to find fun. My wife and I go to such parties. She will find a man who tickles her fancy and when I look at this man's wife I think, "I wouldn't touch that with a ten-foot pole." And it often goes the other way around where I develop a shine for a woman but the woman's husband has no appeal for my wife. I have learned at these parties that my wife will score ten times more often that I will but once I settled in with that idea, I realized that I was still having plenty enough fun.

This is the correct answer here. Who cares what you call it.

The little bit of a tummy that results from having had a baby can actually be an indication of fertility and a turn-on. Being fat or obese, however, is a definite turn-off.

Thinking about it some more, how many gay guys do you think say to one another, "Let's find a woman who will let us put our dicks in her vagina together. "?

Although the late Mrs. Alura I had only a little experience, Pacergirl, I can tell you what seemed to work best. It's best not to make this an early experience on a play-date. Take a load in your pussy from both men, one at a time. You need to be well-lubricated. Rest and have a drink before going for The Main Event. When the men are ready again, or sooner if you have two unused men at hand, do what you have to do to get Man Number One seated on a couch with you impaled in reverse-cowgirl fashion. Lie back in his arms. Raise and spread your knees, resting your feet on Man Number One's thighs. Man Number Two, if you chose properly, will open your labia with his tongue, visiting your clit often as Man Number One pumps you. Their goal will be to make you come. Keep your guys informed of your progress. Just before the climax starts, Mrs. Alura was likely to say,"NOW, I WANT BOTH COCKS NOW!!!" Man Number Two will raise and lay his penis atop Man Number One's, who will reach around your body and use Man Number Two's cock to press his own toward the back of your vagina. Point your toes at the chandelier, relax your vagina and the second cock will glide in for you. Let us know how it goes!

If everyone is enjoying themselves, who cares if it's 'gay' or not?

Whatever is handy, I like to improvise. One of the funner ways is to just have her hold two ropes (or string or whatever). No tying at all...just her knowing if she lets go of either one, we're done.

I had a boyfriend once who would make me cum while he had a pen slipped inside me. Then he would take that pen and write erotic poetry with it. My husband once put a kielbasa inside me while he made me cum, then cooked it for dinner!

Ah well playing around one day we lost a plum. I couldn't understand why it just didn't pop right back out. I had no idea women didn't have any muscle control "in there". It's been over 20 years and we still laugh about that one. (no plums were harmed in making this story)