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Some recent posts have been from single/newly divorced males talking about their fantasies and dicks and wondering if they will fit in. Usually there is a collective groan and someone directs them to some of the other threads. We have all come across the single male that leads with dick pics and "wanna fuck?" I am wondering if these guys ever really learn. I have met some really amazing single guys but wonder is there any hope for those others way off the mark.

I still think in general that women suck dick best. The best thing a woman has going is her face and enthusiasm. A man is more technically skilled. Women who love doing it have a lot more experience than most men. When sucking a dick in front of a woman, I don't think there's a bad reaction she can have. I had one laugh, one walk out in disgust, I've had them sitting masturbate, and have them join in, but the best is when they give encouragement and directions. I learned a few tips from a woman. Like lining up the correct angle to get it down my throat. Another is twisting my head as I go up and down his shaft.

I know what you are thinking... what does a person standing on stage scared to death have to do with swinging. Well... this is a different kind of stage fright, I call it this for lack of a better term. This is something that most people think of in swinging as only affecting the men. Here they are ready to play with some new woman, a woman they have wanted for hours, month's or even years, and just when everything is falling into place and it's time to perform they can't. How many times have we seen this, or had it happen to us. I know I've seen it plenty, and the thing is it's not the guys fault, and it's not the girls fault either. I mentioned earlier that this affects more than the men, and it does because women have the same problem, it's just not physically visible. Usually with us it's shows itself in that we aren't able to cum. What causes this? you ask. Simple, not being comfortable in your environment. In a normal dating relationship you don't have sex with a person until you are comfortable with them, this might be the first date, or it might be 3 months later, at any rate, by the time you get around to swinging you are definitely comfortable with your partner. You know what to expect. When it comes to swinging you could be playing with someone you barely know (if at all), that you only met an hour before and haven't really even talked to. How comfortable can you be, completely naked trying to have sex with what is basically a perfect stranger? Ok, so some people can, but most can't. So what is my advice? The same as my advice has often been. Get to know the person you are with ahead of time, my usual rule is 3 dates (but that's just me). At any rate be comfortable with who you are with. If you aren't comfortable, don't do it (or her or him). If all else fails, there's always Viagra... I hear it's helped many men at least stay hard (but it doesn't help them cum). And hey, remember... you aren't alone, it's actually quite common. This should be looked at from another angle as well, a warning so to speak to all the single guys out there who think swinging and group sex would be just SOOO cool. Things are much different in real life than in fantasy.

To precede this poll I have seen many if not most guys say that they want to watch their wife get fucked by a man. Many guys like to experience their wives getting "deflowered" after they have a stable relationship by being with them while they pleasure and are pleasured by a male. So here is the poll.

There is no hope for the truly arrogant guys who think that just because they have a big dick that women will trip over themselves to have sex with them and they will be recruited by husbands to have sex with their wives. There is the other category of men who are just inexperienced thinking that a profile or response like that is what is expected.

Jane, you asked, "We have all come across the single male that leads with dick pics and "wanna fuck?" I am wondering if these guys ever really learn." Yes, some of them do learn, turn into nice Lifestyle people. Others don't learn, get frustrated and go someplace else. Unfortunately, they get replaced by new recruits almost immediately. My suggestion? Laugh at them, then move on. . .

There is hope. A guy that comes into a place like this and makes a total fool of himself isn't necessarily a bad guy, just very uneducated. People's first impression of 'swingers' is 'group of sluts'. To that effect, a dick pic is perfectly normal. Once a person realizes that many swingers are straight, middle class, educated, conservative folks, the attitude changes. I had to coach a few guys on how to interact with a woman so they could make a decent impression. Men who don't have a clue about women, tend to assign their morals, values and standards to women. "Hey, I love looking at a pussy, I'm, sure everyone will love this dick pic". There is a collective groan as the weekly new single guy pops in ready to fuck the world. Just because it gets old. There should be a large headline and link at the top of the forum. "Single men must enter here before using the forum" with some instructions.

My Mom came from East Prairie, Missouri, Padoc. That's across the river from Cairo, Illinois. (Pronounced "Kay-Row.") Having spent time in the Arab countries, I learned about their customs. I'd not choose to swing there.

Obviously there are some intolerant people on here and people who do not understand the difference between bisexual and gay, in fact they don't understand bisexuality at all. Just because you don't understand something or personally disagree with it doesn't make it right for you to pontificate like your opinion is the only one in the world. There are millions and millions of bisexual people, so it is not abnormal just different. Big difference between "Why would anyone do xxxxxx....!!!" and "I am not into it so don't understand why people do xxxxx.....". That being said, in answer to the original post, men should not need to take cocksucking lessons from women. Ask any bi sexual male, men are typically naturally better cocksuckers than women - they know what feels good. Same is said for women eating pussy. Which brings up another interesting hypocrisy - why is it so much more acceptable for women to be bisexual than men? Even the same people will often decry male bisexuals but applaud female bisexuality. Perhaps they are confused by the fact that masculinity and bisexuality are not mutually exclusive.

My Wife likes to be dominant. Once she tied me down on my back on the kitchen table and told me, she has a surprise later on the evening. About three hours she came back and told me to eat her pussy. It tasted a bit salty. When i was finished eating her pussy she told me i was eating cum from a other guy. i was shocked. Next week she again wants to tie me down and bring me my next surprise. Several times she mentionend that she likes to watch me getting fucked by a guy. I am not bi, but like the dominant setting. What shall I do?

I think Mark Twain says it best “ Nothing needs reform like another persons habits”

Actually, the % of bi guys in the lifestyle is pretty high and getting higher all the time, so I wouldn't say they are in the wrong place. I can recall when it was a nonstarter, and almost zero guys within the lifestyle would openly admit to being bi, I've watched the pendulum swing almost completely in the last 20 years, to the point where those who are completely against it are the minority. Even those guys who aren't into it and not remotely interested are mostly accepting of the idea that others are and they can deal with the discussion of it or even the idea of it happening in front of them (so long as it's not too them). This is a forum section for bisexuality, it is not limited to female bisexuality. If a topic offends you it may be best to avoid it.

Why would any man suck a cock without a woman? To each their own. If you have never sucked one then you will not understand the need. I prefer women but I like to join them in sucking. I posted this in the bisexual section of a swinger site. Am I missing something?

When I was dating my wife 6 years ago I told her that I suck dick. She said that she had never seen that before and asked me if I can go without it. I told her I've been without it for a long time before, but that I would want her to watch and soon. 5 years later I still hadn't done it. After much prodding she reluctantly agreed to watch and nothing else. I set one up and we met him at a bar. She backed out. We were discussing this and if I was ever going to get to do it with her and she asked me what kind of penis I liked. We got online and went to a penis site. We started sharing what we like about penises. How they feel in the mouth how much we enjoyed sucking on them and giving each other tips. She came home next day with a strap-on. She wanted to get used to seeing me with one in my mouth. About a month goes by and she brought her ex son-in-law over the house. She had told him about my sucking dick months ago when we were arguing about this. She quickly lead us to the bedroom. She pulled me down by the shoulders in front of him and said "suck his dick". I put my hands and mouth on his pants. Smelled it, it was musky. It was growing quickly. I start to unfasten his pants and she quickly said you like it? I checked it out. I did. It was gorgeous. About 7 to 8 inches long with a strong veiny shaft. High and tight balls with just the right amount of hair. The head was the best I've seen. It was like a Triceratops Shield. It was musky. He hadn't showered since he got off work. He stepped out of the shoes I pulled his pants down to his ankles. He stepped out of them. His dick was sticking almost straight up. I buried my nose in his nuts. These were the most potent smell. I actually loved it. I licked and lipped my way on the underside of his shaft till I got to the head. It took a while to deep throat. My wife sat silently on the bed. I timed it. It took almost 25 minutes for him to come. I'm still on my knees cleaning up and she calls me cocksucker. I actually wanted to hear that but she said it with such disdain in her voice. He got his pants on and left. She felt the whole thing was disgusting. And I wasn't the man she wanted. We separated and we're two months into our divorce. She called me up. She said she was dating a guy who always wanted to try that. Said she would help. She had changed. She helped me suck him and help him suck me. She fucked us both. I didn't like what happened at the end of the night. She stayed with him and I went home.

Mcat, Don't be worried about anal. Have him use lubriderm as a lubricant, and plenty of it, and have him start out slow. You will find that if done slowly at first to give you time to adjust, you will find that it is very pleasurable if you want it to be.

While being straight but always trying to fulfill each other's fantasy my wife reminded me what she did for me. While talking she seemed extremely excited about the idea of me and another guy. So I indulged her finally. I must say I was extremely nervous but here we go. After a great blow job and seeing the arousal in my wife's face I began sucking him off and moved to giving up my anal virginity while eating my wife. She got off so many times, as did I. It was rather exciting to service her while being serviced. I will say it was an experience to remember. Look forward to our next session.

It is my dream for my wife to watch me suck a fat cock! Lick it, and suck it. And when he is just about to blow, she grabs his pulsating dick and jacks him off into my mouth!! Maybe one day we will find the right person.

Yes It Is! I so agree with you! That IS what makes it fascinating. I do not have the body parts, I do not have the cum, I can only simulate it all. My husband gets the reasons it turns me on to no end such as: getting to be right there helping, seeing and participating up close, guiding, spreading, and what not; that goes for the anal penetration as well as oral; he understand how hot it is for me to receive cum and to do it with him would be extra icing on the cake (too funny); & to be able to look into his eyes as he take a penis orally and/or anally even kissing him deeply as he gasps from the anal entry – O M Gosh how amazing! My husband even knows of many reasons for himself, especially receiving anally. After all we have done and do, he knows the potential in receiving a live penis full of fresh cum up his derriere. He will never give even though he wouldn’t want to be selfish, it is not enough to trade out. Beside he still is trying to get past “it will be a guy.” Without a doubt I believe how could easily handle cum from other men but still perhaps not the actual penis.

OMGosh I would have sooo stayed in the room and gotten myself off multiple times! I can't imagine walking out on that, darn girl you must have wanted to get "freaky" or something to leave THAT. As for your husband not getting there any time soon, I feel you. It has taken years to get my husband comfortable with my fantasies of having him suck a guy, let a guy cum in his mouth, and do him anally as well as cum in him. Now when I talk about it, he gets hard, leaks like mad, and I can do him royally up his anal hole as well as feed him all the cum I can get out of him in a day. I have been writing this lovely bi man who we may eventually hook up with and see how it goes. I had him so turned on earlier today that I believe if I had three guys in waiting my hubby would still be going at it as I type this.

I love fucking a guy and then seeing the intense sex between him/his wife that follows. Dominating him, having his wife see him as a cock sucking, bottom bitch...mmmm yummy

You would have loved watching those guys. I went to a "Dicks only" party once. 10 , masculine bi Guys who knew each other well...sucking, jerking and rough sex. It was HOT. Lots of cum, grunting, etc...First time I've ever had an 8 inch cock in my mouth...really tested my gag reflex. I'd love to go to one again.

My wife was with me the first time a man sucked my cock, the first time I sucked a cock, the first time I swallowed a load of cum, and the first time I got fucked in the ass. She loves to watch me with a bi male. By the time we're ready to cum, so is she! I loved to watch her play with her pussy and cum while I swallow a load! It's a family tradition!

Big turn-on having the wife watch me blow her husband. My favorite is when I'm sucking a "bi virgin" for the first time. Normally they're nervous & the minute my tongue is working that shaft &balls, they begin to relax. One guy kept saying "fuck I can't believe I'm getting blown by a dude...it feels so fucking good"...which made me work even harder & he busted semi quick. Another guy's wife got so horny while he was getting blown, she made me sit on it & ride him

I was there to see hubby's first bi experience last year and it was such a HUGE turn-on. So when he is ready to fuck ass or be fucked, I would love to see that. Though it's more his fantasy rather than mine, from the time I witnessed his bi experience, I am not adverse to seeing him take it a step further if he chooses to do so. :-)

Brian and I are both bi. I love to watch him with another man either as he is being fucked or when he is fucking the guy himself. It is a huge turn-on for me I must admit.