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A little history. We started playing with our best male friend in 1986. In fact he and his wife were the ones that seduced us into playing. That was a time before HIV so we did not worry about going bareback. I remember the first time when we were seduced. We were all nudists and got together on a weekly basis and we had gotten to the point that there was a lot of flirting between all of us. Our male friend and my wife were on the living room floor and he was massaging her. I was on the floor across the room massaging her. I looked over and saw that my wife and my best friend were having intercourse. Even though my wife and I had never discussed it, it just seemed right to me. I pointed out to his wife what was going on across the room and she gave me a little smile. After seeing that I started being more sexual in my massaging and in a few minutes we started having intercourse too. After a few minutes I realized that I knew her husband had had a vasectomy and my wife had had her tubes tied, but I didn't know about her so I asked. She mentioned she had had her tubes tied too, so we continued and we continued until I came inside her. After that my friend who worked nights and my wife who wasn't working got together many times during the day, which I really found exciting. Unfortunately his wife, although a good friend, was not that interested in me but was playing with others. My wife playing with our male friend turned into the two of us playing with her. As time went on, sloppy seconds became very common and even an occasional DVP. At that time he had no trouble cumming and it was always inside her. He and his wife got divorced and each got remarried and everyone knew we were playing with him. My wife and I continued playing with him and we all had a lot of fun. His new wife died of a heart attack in her early 50s and we became even closer to him. We all even agreed to a poly relationship which worked very well. It was not exclusive. One of the problems he had was masturbating so much that he couldn't cum through intercourse, which was a disappointment. A couple of years ago he got in touch with woman he had known years ago. Her husband was fine with them playing, and even though his new playmate said it was fine for my wife to play with him, we stopped because there seemed to be the potential for too much drama. We are still friends with him, but don't feel comfortable playing with him.

I just responded to a post about letting someone cum in your wife. What are the feelings about sloppy seconds? We have been playing with the same couple, our friends for a couple of years. We have not been using protection and it is a given that we are cumming in the wives. My wife and I had always cleaned up after sex and I figured most couple do. I hadn't gone down on her after I came. On occasion she would get me hard again before washing and we would have a second go at it. It was just my cum in her. Now with swapping new things happened. My wife would excuse herself after they finished but our friends would play as soon as he was hard again. No washing. My cum still in her or dripping out. I felt strange just watching that at first. I didn't know if I should be doing the same thing to my wife. I did one time and I felt strange but it felt the same as if I went for a second time without her washing. Maybe she was hotter or more lubed. What do others do?

I know, I know, this topic has been beat to a pulp. Many experienced swingers, I among them, have consistently said, “Don’t do it. Way too much could go wrong, the friendship could be lost, you might get talked about and outed.” Well, is that true? Let’s suppose you’re with a couple you’ve known forever, and things turn sexy. Three things could happen. One - You take our advice, you don’t play. Probably, you’ll wake up in the morning and say, “damn, that would have been fun.” But the next time you see them you won’t feel too bad about it, everyone will go back to being their vanilla selves, you’ll have a question in your mind along the lines of ‘what if’, but everything will be okay. Two - You ignore our advice, you play, have a great time. The next day everybody says, “my god that was wonderful!” The next time you see them, you can’t wait for everyone to take their clothes off. And in social situations, no one says anything, no one feels the other spouse up, you all play it cool. After some period of time you guys drift apart sexually but the friendship and some great memories remain. Three - You ignore our advice, maybe even have a great time when you’re all going at it. But the next morning somebody says, “gee, I really wish we hadn’t done that.” The next time you see them, somebody cringes, the others think ‘what went wrong?’ In social situations, things are strained. Probably you guys will drift apart as friends. Alternatively, somehow it slips out that the four of you are involved. Your other friends think ‘WTF?’, start avoiding you, when the sex stops being great you drift apart with that couple and everyone else is treating you like you’re jerks. In the 'do you play or not' situation you’re facing at that particular moment in time, I can’t begin to make a prediction about which outcome is most likely. There’s way too many variables. If you make the choice to play, well I hope you considered what the outcome might be. And, by the way, if anyone is drunk at the moment the chances of Alternative Three happening go way up. One more thing. If the friend you and your SO are thinking about is a single male, I can almost guarantee a bad outcome. Single men who are young and/or drunks are complete assholes. I’m sure there are multiple studies that can prove that! Good luck

If you're swinging, sloppy seconds is going to happen. Why not enjoy it?

While it isn't true of all people (especially single men) it is the norm to ask permission before you do anything. Don't just expect everyone to honor this rule, but one word from her usually will put a stop to anything that is going on.