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Are we the only ones who don't play bareback? Doesn't matter how "friendly" we are, not going to happen.

Why were you embarrassed? I think he gave you a great compliment!

We became very close to friends we met in the LifeStyle. Vanilla activities, travel, each met the other's kids.

Sun&Moon, thank you for your opinions on the matter. We have mulled over the possiblity, with new information that has come to light to us, that the couple (Bill and Ann)each had the following in their backstory: *Bill had been married before for 11 years, and he and his previous wife were in the LS. They divorced two years ago. * Ann has been a unicorn for a couple for 4 years ago, for a period of about 2 years. she then took a break from the LS to try and go vanilla for a bit. *Ann while she was a unicorn, was a sub to the husband who was her Master. *Bill and Ann have only been together about 6 months, they are not married, but are in fact GF and Boyfriend. With this new info we gathered from asking around, we realize that their issue maybe that being in a new relationship, may be their whole cause of why Ann was unresponsive / talkative to me in our chats. As you said "maybe she doesn't want to get too heated in the group chat so her own husband doesn't worry," in a new relationship with someone, I can see that being the possibility. We continue our search and continue to grow and love as a couple. Thanks to all for the responses.

My fetish having sex with women not my spouse. Mrs Doc's fetish is having sex with men not her spouse. Our Fetish is sharing the above with each other. In the fetish department, we're pretty normal!

We think everyone's definition is going to be what suits their needs.

We had been corresponding, exchanging pictures, and had a planned "first date" 48 hours later (meanIng tonight). Then arrives the following message: "OK, time for me to be shallow. I have enjoyed our mail, your wife bears such an uncanny resemblance to my wife's mother, that she has declined to meet. Best of luck." Really? This just surfaced? Like, had you mentioned the month of correspondence and photos to your spouse as you said you had? Sheesh. What's your best flake story?

I honestly have never thought about it, because whether or not someone is "fit" has never had any bearing on if I'm attracted to them. But my observation from profiles on swinger sites as well as meet and greets and play parties is that "fit" is usually people who look just like the people in the profile asking only for "fit" people.

Angel&Tiger, sorry for the feelings my post gave you. I only used the term 'making love' because I dislike using the F-word (that's MY hangup!) you are absolutely right, a true connection should only be made with your love partner, not with a friend that you are fucking.

Having to check off a lot of rules is distracting. Distractions kill arousal. If kissing is a part of your sex play together, its natural that it is then part of the arousal process for both of you and if she's not aroused, she's not wet. Its a silly rule and we agree completely with PSU (We ARE…). No kissing is for us means no play no matter how hot the couple is.