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Depends what you want to swap her for? A new RV, a herd of goats?

And you know boys, they'd rather play with the box rather than what came in it anyway. Also just like the other toys, men play with breasts even though they are meant for the children.

News from the vanilla world--clergy assaulting children, a celebrity sexual predator who drugged dozens of women for sex, a peace officer who turns out to be a serial killer of women, a world "leader" who thinks it's just fine to "grab pussies". No news from the swinger world, where respect is intrinsic and consent is foundational to intimacy. There is something wrong with social norms that tolerate the enumerated vanilla behaviors and yet assert the lifestyle to be "sinful".

I lost my virginity, but more importantly, I still have the box it came in.

I am.

Thanks to all who commented on our original post. Always good to see discussion. A few observations. Most of us on this board live in two worlds, the vanilla world and the LS world. These are, in the jargon, "alternative lifestyles". When we pass between these two worlds, we carry not only our physical selves but also some system of values. Indeed, it is precisely those systems of values that not only enable us to inhabit both worlds but also to find sufficient satisfaction in those worlds to keep us going over and back again. The vanilla world encourages violence as entertainment yet discourages sexual expression except in narrowly circumscribed situations. The swinger world encourages sexual expression among consenting adults and discourages violence except in the narrowly circumscribed situation of consensual role play. Yes, there are monsters in both worlds. It seems odd, though, for a civilized society to label the vanilla world "normal" and the swinger world sinful, aberrant, destructive etc. Yes, it's hypocritical. But the deeper question is why the hypocrisy persists.

The OP didn't sound to me like a comparison of swingers vs predators vs vanilla lifestyle. It sounded like a commentary on the hypocrisy of the societal acceptance of deviant behaviors that harm innocent people while condemning behaviors that build love, trust, openness and honesty in relationships within a group of people that are preying on no one, where the cardinal rule is that No means No. Sexual deviants are getting publicity and through that publicity they gain a certain amount of acceptance. The ACLU recently represented NAMBLA in a wrongful death suit. NAMBLA members would bristle at even being considered sexual deviants and, it appears, there are those in the mainstream who would defend that position. Hollywood can't even make a decent, honest movie about the lifestyle. Even Playboy TV cancelled Swing in favor of more salacious programming that is sometimes full of negativity and drama.

We use daily Spicy, a swinger social network/portal ... We use it because? First reason is that many Italian couples and couples many of the Czech Republic. We live near Como and for work we are often in Prague. Second reason: It has a simple layout and works like FB, can create gallery, create events, protect face photos, etc.