Hello all, and greetings from Australia.
It was this thread that brought me to this site and inspired me to join. This is my first post, so forgive my newness to all of this.
I am not in the lifestyle, and not likely to be so in the immediate future, due to the fact that my wife is not thinking this way – at least not overtly.
We are both Christians, active in our mainstream church. My wife teaches at a Christian school. I am a nurse in the local emergency room (night shift for over 10years). She is 50, I am 49. She is the only woman I have ever “known” and I love her beyond words. Sex has been okay through the years, and has been, to the most part, her lying back and leaving me to the hard work. There have been times when she’s been more of an active participant, and more so in the last few years, but mostly its missionary and get it over with. I’ve tried lots of things and usually they fall flat. She has a lot of body hangups. She’s not perfect, neither am I. She won’t get naked with me unless the light is out (but lately we’ve had a little electronic candle and I can see a little bit more now). She’s shy and won’t let me watch her blow me – even though I’ve asked to let me. I think it’s all part of the trust thing.
I am a very sexual person, and my main outlet has been a (not so) secret porn habit that my wife hated and caused some major trust issues. That’s over and done now, but I guess the mistrust remains (she tells me different, but I can’t help feeling it between us). She’s got her very mainstream views on marriage, and I have had the same forever, but lately I’ve been wondering. And then there was a “thing” that I had for one of my (younger) colleagues that didn’t lead to cheating (but lusting is the same thing, right?). I still loved my wife, but also was feeling love for this other woman. It was crazy and confusing. But it was never going to lead to anything anyway, so I let it go.
How did I get to this point? We were going on a cruise in December, and I read somewhere that some people decide to do things (ie sexual) that they wouldn’t do at home – you know, with people that they would never see again. We we met a nice young couple who seemed interested in us, and I started wondering. She was little and cute and happy. He was tall and strong and handsome. I imagined that there could be something between us all. We had a drink and a nice dinner and a lot of laughs, but that was it. My wife gets tired early and gets “over people” and so we retired to our cabin and only saw them sporadically after that. On out last night I we looking for them and they were sitting playing card games up in the near deserted kids-free area. I’d like to think that maybe they were waiting for us to find them. We exchanged numbers, handshakes and hugs. Later messages and facebook posts were exchanged enthusiastically. I offered a bed if they visited.
Then I thought, am I a closet swinger?
Here I was imagining the four of us together, maybe twice a year, for a little fun between the sheets.
And how does all of that fit in with my faith?
My wife is now concerned, because I’m reading books, trying to work out what the Bible says (and doesn’t say) out sex. She’s even used the word “heretic”, so I guess at some point I’m going to be burned at the stake!
But then, little things she’s said… she wonders what it would be like have two of me in bed with her (weird?) and gave me a little raise of the brows when she suggested it… she told me that she had been “unfaithful in her mind” when I told her I’d stopped looking at porn (now I want to know details!)… she said that she had considered being a lesbian at one point because men are pigs. Once she told me she had a desire for me to cum on her tits, which I did enthusiastically and I await other little requests.
I write novels, and so I employed my skills at writing a little fantasy – a little erotica. In the scenario, there are two of her and one of me, a nice threesome that involves a little girl-girl touching and ends with my cum on both their tits. Standard stuff, I guess. She smacked my arse, told me I was a naughty boy for writing it. My next story is MFM with two of me, and then a foursome the configuration I think you can guess. As weird as doubles are, it’s something she’s thought about that is outside then box, and dammit, I’m running with it. And maybe it will get her thinking beyond that.
So, I’m interested in how people of faith made the transition into this way of thinking. What was the process? Who had the first inklings? What are your stories?
I know I am a long way from where you guys are. There are so many barriers ahead. I see that trust is a big thing and I doubt my wife’s trust in me, but I can see she’s starting to have the same feelings as me (at least I hope). I will talk to her about all of this when I’m sure where my head and my heart is, and when I get the courage.
Sorry this is so long.