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So we had that one experience back at Hedonism (our first) and had been having dinner dates since trying to make something happen again. All of the local dates turned out to be busts and I came on here and posted that we wondered if it would ever work out locally. It finally happened. We had a nice dinner date with a couple we clicked with. We chatted heavily afterwards going over possible scenarios. They are as normal as can be in real life with a busy schedule, but we managed to schedule a play date soon after the dinner. We are open to trying full swap, but they are currently at soft so we were ok with that. Boy did it work out! This time around the beginner nerves weren't there and we did all sorts of things that are burned into my mind now as pleasant memories. The wife went full on girl/girl action with kissing, etc without any kind of apprehension as well. Afterwards we all cleaned up and went out to dinner without any awkwardness! The next morning we went about our normal lives without even so much as a second thought about it. Have we officially graduated to swinger status? We still haven't done full swap but after that I'm fully confident we could handle it. We even giggled about it as we discussed it.

Hi Cathy! I'm not sure in what way I can be of help but perhaps sharing my thoughts on my own experience can give u some ideas. My "mini-Gb" (as per definition of gb provided by adamgunn) was not something I sought for. My lucky day just came one day because my 2 guys (my partner and a regular swing partner) worked hard to bring in another guy into the play. I doubt if I can even arrange it on my own, working alone. It is only now that I'm trying to find partners (on my own) for swinging (more than two) after my other 2 guys decided to go on their own ways. I have no difficulty finding swing partners for ONS or NSAs but finding one or two, or more to join us as a couple is an extra challenge. Many F or M are intimidated by it, based on my experience. Here are some thoughts that may help: 1. Personally, Im a bit obsessed about health (STIs) and reproductive safety (Im not on pill or any contraceptives) so my priority was to experience gb or moresome with playmates who are not total strangers - people who I have personal knowledge for being health conscious and respecting for rules or boundaries. I was lucky my regular swing partner was our common friend for a long time. He invited his brother to join us. A bit awkward at first, but we all felt secured on the health aspect of it. It was mmfm. While it was tempting to add more guys into the activity, I took control by insisting that more guys could be unmanagable during the play so 3 m is enough for the meantime. 2. I, the F, being the center of attention, should be in control of the activity to enforce my boundaries - I don't wish to get anal as I sore easily on that area and my wish for use of barrier for piv. Things can get easily out of hand due to the pasion of the moment that these can easily be forgotten, especially for 4 or more guys. Although in our case, I let go of the barrier for that activity as I felt reproductively safe at that time. I also gave them a bonus to reciprocate the pleasure by letting them cum inside my arse, but without any pounding. It would be a great disappointment for my guys if they can't touch my lovely butt at all for the night ;-) 3. If you are inexperienced in gb like myself, I suggest that you invite guys who are not total strangers, for health reasons or to make the entire experience more enjoyable. If the guys are stranger to each other, there will be awkwardness and each of the guys will play mechanically. On the otherhand, if there is some rapport among them, there will be teamwork and that will be more fun for you. 4. If inexperienced, try to do a lot of mfm 3some first to get the hang of it. Another side benefit of this...if u have regular 3some partners, u can request the guys to invite their friends who are intersted in this and who are not total strangers. That will save u a lot of time and awkwardness finding swing partners for your gb activity. In my case, while I have some experience with 3somes, it was limited to 3 active partners so in effect I'm still a newbie into the lifestyle of more than two-somes. My partner and I was in regular mfm play with a common friend for several months. I occasionally swing individually with other partners 1 to 1 as I easily attract guys. Then we did the mini-gb with friend's brother. After that his brother began to join us in mfm whenever I was with friend in their house. (my partner knew about it) So technically I was in a 2 groups of mfm. Possibly, the reason I'm missing them that much. But the friend became involved with a jealous gf who demanded mono from him so he opted out. That's the time brother wished me to be his gf which I accepted. He didnt want me to swing with others, so for 3 years it was only him and partner. Occasionally, we swing together as mfm, but not as much as his brother/common friend. We parted ways a few months ago. 5. I feel it is best to do Gb in a home (just like we did), instead of a hotel room so there can be other activities to do other than sex. Some can drink, some can play games, etc. That will prevent the awkward situation of guys lining up for their turn for sex hahaha There should be spontaneity. They should be free to try other permutations that's why I suggested that the guys should not be strangers to each other. Like in my experience, after the group play, we did card games, while d other watched tv. And in between, one of the guys invited me to the washroom and took me there, and the 2 friends did a 3some wd me in the car (and over the hood) inside d covered carport! Friend's brother requested the group that I sleep in his bed til morning (if he slept at all haha)

Maybe you already know her. I'll bet Wisconsin n RI are closer than you think. LOL

I found the perfect woman for you but she is in RI. She is new on here too, joined about the same time as you, and is looking to start swinging. You both are looking for gangbangs too. Maybe you already know her.

Truth or dare is a good start, or just asking 'so how do we start this?'. Saves the time spent on truth or dare. Good luck and let us know how things go.

Wow. The guy you found is very patient and understanding. Not many would hang in there like that. It's normal to be nervous about seeing his tool. Just relax and focus on her, and if you guys happen to touch each other by accident, don't panic! It happens.