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It sounds like this guy has set his priorities for a relationship and swinging is one of the prerequisites. I see nothing wrong with that. Isn't it better to be honest up front than to have regrets after the honeymoon? I'm thinking that Canada needs to put her feelings about this new man aside for awhile and simply consider this lifestyle. If she decides it's just not something she'd be comfortable with, she should probably find another partner. But it she finds that it has an appeal, then she should explore this more and talk to him about why this is one of his deal breakers.

There is an active post entitled "What makes an unforgettable blow job?" How about a discussion about what makes receiving oral unforgettable for a woman? My list: - I like getting oral while lying on my back on the bed while you kneel on the floor. Let's get comfortable first. - Don't turn me down just because someone has recently been down/in there. I may not be fresh, but I'm always clean. My girls don't have a problem with it. If it's good enough to put your dick in there, it's good enough for your mouth (except my bum; you don't have to lick my bum hole). - Don't jump in immediately. Start by looking and admiring everything I have down there: my hair, my outer labia, the coloring of my inner lips, my clit, my vaginal opening. Turn the desk lamp on, shine it on my pussy, tell me how beautiful it is. - Once you get started, use both your lips and your tongue. Go back and forth measuring my response. - My clit is big, but please don't suck on it like you're trying to suck the life out of it. - Alternate between slowly putting full tongue pressure on my clit, especially from the left and right with quickly flicking across it. - It's nice to have your tongue occasionally go across the opening of my vagina, but trying to stick it inside like a dick is not going to work, it's too small. - Gently slip your index and middle fingers into my vagina. - Even more gently and once some juices have run down, slip your ring finger into my bum. - With your other hand, play with my tits while your licking and kissing my pussy. Don't squeeze my nipples too hard! You can be a little rough with my breasts overall, but just gently brush across my nipples. - I usually don't give instructions while getting oral, but if I do, listen and follow directions. - Continue whatever you are doing at the time I come well through my orgasm. And don't be backing off because something is shooting out of there, sometimes it happens. You should be flattered. - Remember that unlike you (if you're a guy), me having an oral orgasm isn't going to diminish my capabilities for penis-in-vagina intercourse. - After I say "stop," Stop! You can keep your mouth on my pussy, but don't try stimulating me for like two minutes. After I recover we'll decide what we're going to do next - more licking, fucking, moving on. - Optional - I'll get on all fours on the bed, you get underneath and lick/kiss me while I take a dick doggie. You can skip the fingering steps above. You can play with one of my tits, but leave one for the other guy. I'll suck your dick/lick your pussy for a while, but the closer I get to cumming, it's all me, I need to breathe.

A guy can walk into a club with his gut hanging over his junk and still have a big confident smile. Beautiful lady with breasts that don't quite stand up like they did 10 years ago feels like everyone is looking and judging. The nice thing about swingers is the polite lifestyle. Take a picture of a group of swingers at a party and compare it to a work xmas party. Way fewer smiles at the office party. It's safer to be less than perfect in this atmosphere, still uncomfortable, but better at building confidence. Very few swingers are hung up on body type. Enjoying the LS is sexy, enjoying your body and others is sexy. Hot, young, tight, spinners dont automatically make good lovers any more than big dicks. There is more to it.

Sorry, but it sounds like the relationship is over. It doesn't seem possible for it to survive such an ultimatum.

That's a movie.

We were also on the cruise -had a great time. Booked the 11/19 cruise now. Too much fun!

You aren't going to talk her into anything so get out of that mindset. Just bring it up. You could say something like "Back when we were dating you mentioned having a dream about being with another woman. You also told me that you had an opportunity for that to actually happen and at the time it seemed as if you regretted that you didn't pursue it. Is that something that you still have thoughts about? I think about it and I can tell you it turns me on to think about you with another woman." See where it leads but keep this advice in mind. Don't push it. She actually planted that seed 13 years ago and you are just now getting around to responding. Don't get discouraged or worse, get pissed because she doesn't respond favorably right away. It may be something she has given up on and might need some time to rekindle that flame inside her. If she wants to talk about it she may ask you what turns you on about it. Be honest about that and let the discussion go where it goes. She may say she doesn't want to do that now for whatever reason. Are you OK with getting that answer? If you aren't then don't bring it up. If you aren't comfortable putting it that succinctly to her or you are concerned about how she might react then you probably have a long road ahead building the skills necessary to communicate on that level.

Twice as many guys as girls? Like six for the three of us? OK, now I'm imagining it...

Hi Petra. I understand your opinion as it is based on your personal situation, but imagine a setting where the female has no interest in other females, so the play is mostly MFM where there js twice as many guys as girls.

Geez....the time we have a mini orgy (4 ladies and 3 guys) and it was a night to remember. We had the ladies playing deepthroat games testing who could go the futherest on each cock, then the guys had the unspoken competition of who could make the ladies cum the most. It lead to some crazy sex from everyone. An old lady who was my neighbour from the apartment beside mine heard all that sex noise which drove her crazy. She started banging on the walls but nobody cared, we were too deep in our fun. To our surprise about 15 mins later we heard heavy banging on the front door. I went outside with just a towel on to see about 8 police men standing there with guns drawn who informed me that they needed to check the premises as they had received a call tipping them that a lady was being raped and assaulted in my apartment. I knew it was that old bitch that called the cops but it only added to the excitment as when the cop came in to search and saw what was going down they basically laughed and gestured at their colleagues to come take a quick peek then left. Even now we all still laugh about that night.