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All three of you seem to have thought it through. I would go for it in your situation, with two caveats: Get your wife to promise you that no matter what, you'll always be your number one. Understand that it's possible that you'll lose this other man as your friend. How to get it started? If you don't have a big thing about watching, simply let her know that she has your complete okay with this. Then invite him over to hang. When he gets there, tell them both that they should have some fun and that you'll be gone for two hours. Then don't bother them for those two hours. If you want to watch, invite him over and play some sort of a strip game. If they don't take the hint after that, well . . .

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Well, yes, sex with one person can get hum-drum, and swinging spices it up. By being excited about being with other people, you then get excited about being with each other. New people bring new techniques, you then carry those to the marital bed. Having said that, a swinger who isn't happy with their own partner probably won't be happy in a swinging relationship.

ONLY a 1st timer should need that sign!

It’s the only courteous thing to do.

Since I have been pretty horny since youth, there is little chance that someone could say something that would make me abandon the opportunity. I've been turned off, of course, and the one I remember is a girl friend who was "taking one for the team," and was not openly hostile to me, but damned close. Forget it. On the subject of language, though--I find that "creative swearing" is sometimes entertaining. The simply vulgar and stupid doesn't make me say "No," as much as I just avoid those people. Creative swearing has rhythm and a lyrical quality. Rare.

There are some fairly tried-and-true rules in the Swinger Lifestyle (regarding: respect, communication, honesty, trust etc.), but I suspect the question of: "Should we try and include swinging with our vanilla friends?" is largely situational. Based on my general memory of what I've seen posted on this BBS over the years, I'd be inclined to say that "it may be a bad idea". On the other hand, if it worked, it could be great! I think the real question that everyone in this situation has to ask: "Is it worth the risk (to the friendship) to give it a try?" :-| I looked back on your previous posts in this thread, and it appears to me that y'all are approaching this with your eyes wide open, which is a good thing. I suppose there is no way to know for sure (as usual) till you actually try it (and jump off that proverbial cliff). Emphasize the basics, and your chances of success should increase exponentially. As was mentioned previously, sticking with your rule of "no friends, no co-workers" will always be safest. I would think that one other significant factor would be: "How strong a grasp do all involved have regarding what really makes a swinging situation work?"

Reminds me of the Timbuk 3 tune... A 100 Lovers

The OP has a genuinely bad and selfish idea. Bad idea for swinging, bad idea for his marriage. Dude, if your wife ain’t playing, you ain’t playing. Most swingers don’t want to play with a married guy with a hall pass. There are lots of truly single guys. Why worry about a spurned wife barging in on her cheating husband?

You may find this hard to believe OP but most swinging couples are HUGE believers in marital fidelity. We may boink other people but we do so with the full knowledge and consent of our partners. Unless your wife is fully on board, you're just a cheater and will have even less of a chance than the thousands of genuinely single males out there who think swinging is the secret to getting laid with no strings attached.

Swinging will never save a boring or bad relationship. Instead it is the sprinkles on top of the sundae of a great relationship. It will magnify the faults of a weak relationship just like it magnifies the strength of a great one. If you are looking to save a relationship by swinging, you are looking in the wrong place. Swinging is entirely built upon love trust and communication. If any of those three are weak or lacking, then jealousy, lies and deception is given the change to undermine the foundation. Swinging isn't a cure all. Sure, it may seem like a way to jump start an old relationship but this usually doesn't fix any of the other problems and just quickens the end.

I've never been bored with Mrs Doc in any area. She's beautiful, sexy, funny and very bright. Even before we started to swing, sex was a lot of fun with her. She wasn't afraid to try new positions or new places like the parking lot of our local Giant. She would often not wear a bra and was not above flashing me a boob in Lowes or the mall. She loved to try on clothing and leave the dressing room curtain or door partially open. There were times when I was not the only guy getting a show and she didn't seem to mind. Once we started swinging, she has continued to surprise me with her capacity for fun and orgasms. I don't think we'll ever get bored with each other. Each year around Christmas we get dressed up and go out to an upscale place for our own holiday dinner for 2. Its a splurge, top shelf all the way. The last several years our place of choice is Capital Grille. This year, she wore a thin white blouse with a few buttons undone, no bra and a short skirt, (the panties were still in the drawer with her bra). We had the wait staffs full attention through out dinner. As we left, I opened the car door for her and she flashed me and the parking lot with an upskirt shot. We were chatting a bit as I got us to I-75, about a 10 minute drive. As I entered the ramp she said sweetly, "Honey, over here". I looked over and she had one boob out and her skirt hiked up. Once I got into traffic I looked over at her again and she had the seat partially reclined and I discovered that she had put her favorite vibrator in the car before we left home. Try to maintain concentration on the highway with a semi naked woman riding a vibrator in the seat next to you. I think its more distracting than texting. My only suggestion was for her NOT to squirt on my leather seats. She didn't and our boring 40 minute drive home wasn't.

I'm not convinced that swinging is the answer to marital boredom. People, married, swinging or single, have to put forth effort to keep sex exciting. I remember an evening when Laura and I were driving home after separate-room swapping with our playmates. "How was sex with Mr. Playmate this evening, Sweetheart?" I asked. "Just like Ol' Married Folks, Darling." It occurred to me that it had been like that with Mrs. Playmate, too. During our next meeting, we discussed our feelings with Mr. and Mrs. Playmate and had our first same-bed foursome.

Well put.

Both times our best friend hand DVP with my wife and me, he and I came rather quickly and we both came together. It was amazing. Since we were not using condoms, he and I could really feel the added lubrication when we came together.

There's no reason that you can't do both and enjoy both. That's what I like and it's sensory overload, in a good way. Watching my wife banging another man and being in another pussy either at the same time or afterwards is heaven.