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Now I kind of want to watch that show. Quantum entanglement, mechanics, theory has always intrigued me. I love astronomy and wish to pursue some amateur astrophotography in the near future and I would have been shocked just as you were. Way to go!

We are noobs, just dipped our first toe in late Nov/early Dec. Last weekend we had our first full swap, with great results. They came back the next day and we did it again. Fantastic experience. So this weekend we had plans Sat but ended up playing really, really late afterwards with a new couple. Sunday we had friends planned to come over and play, and we were discussing swinging things and the subject came up of another couple. We called the new friends from last night and they happily came over. We played a card game with a strip element for a little bit and migrated to the bedroom. To date probably the hottest experience we have had together. mfm's ffm's fmf, couples, whatever. Just everyone playing and having a great time. I must say, We're a lot less shy than we used to be just a week ago.

awesome fou you two

My wife and I dived into the pool heads-first: full-swap, no condoms, kissing not disallowed, full-steam ahead, full-fun enabled. That was eighteen years ago and we have never regretted it. P.S. I can think of no other analogies or similes that I can strain.

HT, No apology necessary. I was pretty sure you didn’t know what The Onion is, but MANY people do and now you’re one of ‘em! That said, I believe that NObody should be getting their medical advice from the Internet in the first place. If you have ED — or *any* medical issue for that matter — you need to be talking with your own doctor about it, not relying on online sources unless the site is known to be legitimate (e.g. the CDC or Johns Hopkins).

Chico, I'm glad you're enjoying the lifestyle. You said, "A do over, I would start with MFM at maybe age 18 instead of 40something." Do you think that perhaps the added maturity made it easier to enjoy what you were doing? It seems to me that a young person who jumps into this kind of thing sometimes is conflicted about what it right and wrong. Added years means additional thoughts about proper ethics.

Thank you all. Alura, yes lots of laughs, lots of O's. Hell, we all even stopped for about 15 min half way through and had a good conversation then went back to it.

The reason for swinging is variety and to enjoy things that you don't have at home. Both my wife and I get jealous because we're having sex with other people. But we actually like that feeling now and just end up loving one another more and fucking each other's brains out afterwards.

Good for you for getting off to a rip roaring start!

Lucky y'all! I hope there was alot of laughter!

I’m all natural

If someone sent us a note saying, “I am attracted to your wife but my wife is not attracted to your husband (me)” I might assume that they are asking for either a solo date with my wife or a threesome without his wife. In either case, I probably wouldn't go further with the escapade. As you say, it's not a very nice thing to say. If you are asking for a solo or threesome (assuming his wife and her husband is okay with it) just ask for that. Be honest.

Surely there must be a nicer way to say no thank you.

"Just got another SLS message tonight “I am attracted to your wife but my wife is not attracted to your husband (me).” Just for my image, I am 61, but I think I am above average in looks in a studious way." We know this feeling, it happens all the time. We think more than half are fakes or only comfortable with adding another woman to the mix. It takes much longer to find 4-way compatibility and even though most say they will not take one for the team, there are times when two are into it and the other two are along for the ride.

What constitutes a "beginning?" Laura and I talked about the concept of extra-marital sex for two years before we got married and another year before our first swap. We were in line at a fast-serve pizza place when Laura complimented a lady on her earrings. The four of us sat together to eat. They were fun, attractive and good conversationalists. After dinner, bills paid, we were getting ready to leave, saying how much we'd enjoyed our meeting and "Hope we run into each other again." Laura asked, "How do y'all feel about mate-sharing?" An hour later Laura was doing Rick in our bedroom and I was doing Jo on our couch.

Quite frankly young lady, when a woman generously offers me the honor of giving her an orgasm with my mouth, I don't want to taste flowers or soap, I want to taste pussy. Clean is good, but not sanitized to bland sterility.

I’m the same way. The situation gets super exciting sometimes and trying to hold back orgasm is hard. I’ve in the past had remorse as things between my wife and the partner progress after I’ve already had my orgasm. I’m a quick cummer and for sure and usually build back up within a few minutes but what I’ve learned to do is let the partners cum first so that I don’t get out of the mood or I’ll try to sit back and watch after I cum as tobuild back up for a second round. I’ve heard trying to breathe slow and get your heart rate down helps. It’s hard to not be excited in those situations though.

I have learned that I am not the best at anything. I was not the best basketball player, not the best baseball player, not the best golfer, not the best dancer, and I am not the best looking man in the world. I learned many years ago I was not the most hung guy, that one was a tough one for me. We are all given traits and we have to play the cards we are dealt with. To me my wife is beautiful but I never pictured her as a model for Sports Illustrated. I have always been driven to small breasted women though I enjoy a great pair. Some think a big butt is heaven, I don't. We are all a package and your husband married you for who you are and I am sure you married him for all his attributes not just one. I know I have been jealous about the friend who can make a shot from anywhere on the court or my other friend who has a 5 handicap on the golf course. I am still happy when I break 90. I always figured my wife was happy with my average sized penis and the sex we have. I was surely apprehensive the first time she was with someone else in front of me and more so when I saw his size. Pleasure just like pain is a fleeting moment. We know we had a painful toothache and then the pain goes away. Your wife had a great sex moment, now it is a memory just like the great concert you may have gone to. She enjoyed Bruno Mars but she isn't comparing your singing to his. I once told my wife that a woman we were playing with gave me the best blowjob I ever had. Boy did I want to take that back. Instead we discussed what our partner did that make me think it was great. It goes back to communication and the enjoyment of seeing our partner pleased. Don't lie, tell him that the sex was great. Then tell him why you picked him to be the one you want to have sex with every day and why you love him. As others have said, sex is an act, love is so much more.

I have never used protection to give or get oral sex, as I expect with the super majority of those that swing.

With the experience of many years and even more partners I've found that for a surprisingly large proportion of women, as pleasurable as they might find intercourse, they like receiving oral even more. They pleasure they collectively expressed in a way trained me to love all the aspects of giving women oral - the taste, the smell and the sight of a woman's pussy, and all the variations that exist - are as strongly gratifying for me as any other aspect of erotic activity. And I like a really wide range. :-) Unfortunately, my beloved (and pleasingly horny) wife as a result of a series of bladder infections early in our relationship, developed a dread of receiving oral. I'm grateful that when she masturbates manually as part of foreplay, she offers me her fingers to lick and suck. But it's not satisfying in the way that burying my face between a woman's thighs is. (Fortunately all of my play partners are more than happy to receive my oral ministrations.) My wife and I did once try oral with a dental dam. It was about as satisfying for me as licking a balloon, and even less so for her.

I've heard of people using saran wrap as a barrier for oral sex with a woman. I've never used any kind of "protection" for oral, and if someone tried to put saran wrap over me before going down I think I would just call the whole thing off. lol

My red flag goes up when I read profiles from the elite couples.They are always "professionals" (aren't we all? We work, pay our taxes and don't live in a cardboard box or under a bridge somewhere.) I feel like they would want to see our tax returns and resumes before they would play with us. Probably the strangest and most superficial thing I have ever seen in a profile was--"we are extremely selective and only play with the kind of people who were picked first for teams in gym class." Well, I know for a fact that some of those very people are sitting in prison right now. Pictures usually include these couples rock climbing, participating in triathlons and standing in front of the Eiffel Tower. The first thought I have about this type of couple is that they are all for show, miserable and very lonely because no one meets their high standards. Give me a rowdy, beer-drinking friendly couple that are "hell on wheels" in bed any day.