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I can honestly say in 10+ years of swinging, I have never seen that place. Any place we have been there are all types of body shapes and sizes. This goes for the nude beaches and resorts as well. We love our imperfections and expect the same. We obviously have high standards when it comes to cleanliness and grooming. We don’t even get hung up on clothing - easy to put a turd in a nice wrapper! While physical attraction plays a significant role in our choice of partners, attitude and personality go a long way especially if it’s going to extend beyond one night.

I am a single woman and I don’t think it sounds like a good idea. When I date men in open relationships my rules include he initiate a request to see me. I don’t want to hear “let me ask my wife” and I feel I am not interrupting their marriage. They are also not allowed to come to me when they have a problem with their spouse. I have no desire for them as a life partner. Twin flames sounds very intense. Can I ask what led to your wife allowing another chance? Does your wife have other playmates? Does this other woman have other partners? I imagine her desire for you is very flattering, but please don’t get so caught up you forget to give your wife and your marriage the attention they deserve.

Its only awkward if you let it be so. What ICM and Gold said!!!

Last night, my wife and I spoke at length about swinging. We both discussed our thoughts, desires, and rules/boundaries. To my surprise, we matched up perfectly and are on the exact same page! We agreed to take it slow and just feel things out initially but are both open to soft and full swaps only in same room with condoms for penetration being required. She also said she doesn't want other males cumming in her mouth and I explained she needed to be up front about that. We also watched an episode of the Playboy Swing reality show, together, which REALLY turned us on. We had some of the best sex we had in a while after watching that, talking about swinging, and imagining ourselves doing it. Who's to say what actually happens the first time I see my wife penetrated or the first time she watches me with another woman. But so far, so good. We'll also be constantly checking in and communicating before, during, and after we do anything. We both agreed we are going to drop a little weight before trying it. I'm 5'8" ~205 and she's 5'10" ~240. I'm going to keep learning here and trying to start dialogue with local clubs so we can familiarize ourselves.

You've answered your own question as far as advice from us goes: "I've read at length that being concerned whether anyone will want to talk to and/or play with 1st timers is super common." If you've read the responses, you know our attitude is if you go in with a pleasant demeanor you'll be accepted by some, at least. All the advice you're going to get to us means nothing until you're actually willing to walk through the door. . .

I don't agree with trying to have that discussion during sex. Sure, have the fantasy all you want and play with it but have the discussion at a different time. It sounds like she tried to have it when you say she brought it up later in the day. That's a positive. I would suggest that next time it comes up during sex just go with it like normal but sit her down within 24 hours, if she doesn't bring it up again first, and ask the question. "You've made some comments about MFM and hotwifing, is this something you have a real interest in exploring? I don't want to do anything to hurt us but I want to do whatever it is that fulfills your desires and I do find it a turn on too." Or word it to that effect in whatever way sound like you. If she does make another passing comment then seize the opportunity and just ask if it's something she really is interested in. She'll probably take it from there. I do think that beyond asking that question and making that statement you shouldn't script anything else. Put it out there for discussion and let her know how you feel. You have to be OK with and accept whatever answer she gives you. If she says she's fine with how things are then let her know you love her more than anything and you just needed to know. Drop it unless she has questions. The risk, provided you have a good relationship, is that the fantasy games may cease, at least for a while. However, she may bring it up again at some point. If she responds favorably or brings it up later, let her tell you what she wants. Ask how she might see it playing out, both in the lifestyle and in your life. Let her write the script after that and enjoy being one of the characters. If it ever gets to be too much then tell her what you need. Be just as willing to hear her. As you get more experience and you both find out what turns you on you can then start writing some scripts if that's something she might like.

While I've never tried this with another couple, I love to edge my wife. Being a person who loves foreplay, I like to spend 45 minutes to an hour just teasing the crap out of her. Erotic massage is definitely my preferred choice. I like to bring her to the edge at least five times. Seven is about her limit before she gets to frustrated. I alternate between a slow, sensual massage and lightly trailing fingertips across her body...getting as close to her sensitive areas (nipples, clit, opening) as possible without actually touching them. That drives her crazy. After 25 minutes or so of that, I'll progress to full contact with those areas.. caressing, stroking, tugging... then slowly insert a finger halfway...curling my finger upwards, applying pressure to her g-spot and just holding it there, while continuing to caress, massage, kiss her breasts. You really have to know your partner and be able to read their body. I have occasionally pushed her over the edge before I was ready. Oops...oh well...guess we have to start over...lol

It means that just because you CAN doesn’t mean you SHOULD!! Apply that thought to wearing a thong at a club or house party.

I guess that was the genius behind the ring thing. Plausible deniability. If someone asks and you don't want them to know, you can feign ignorance. For us, the only people who asked about our black rings were people we were already meeting for that purpose. No random encounters. Btw, had to Google tide box in window. Never heard that one before.

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More like: Rascal Flatts - Here And I wouldn't change a thing I'd walk right back through the rain Back to every broken heart On the day that it was breakin' And I'd relive all the years And be thankful for the tears I've cried with every stumbled step That led to you and got me here, right here

I totally agree with Adamgunn. You are in the very early stages, and she may have said those things just to turn you on, to be the best wife. Not because she really wanted to entertain those activities. Jumping to an actual MFM is a terrific leap...not warranted by what she said during sex at all, IMO.

Warm, friendly , vanilla is the way I would go. Two years is a long time. Write no script other than that.

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I am currently on Jenny Craig. Lost 4 lbs. the first week.Not a difficult diet. Just follow directions. Having a better weight helps attract people and it helps performance and agility. We saw the comedian Martin Short recently. He said he’s been on Jenny Craig more often than Mr. Craig.

"If you had it to do over again ..." I'd do it all over again.

Hey squirrel, Guess that I am a Unicorn then, 'cause I have loved seeing guys suck each other while I watch. The first time a boyfriend suggested we share a guy's cock, I said, "sure, why not?" After all, I was raised in the nudist lifestyle and have watched guys look at each other like I love other sexy ladies. My hubby is so secure with his sexuality that I was the one to suggest it with a gym trainer, and it was never a problem. Find a secure and non-jealous female partner like me who is always open to what feels natural.I did teach Dave how to properly deepthroat a big cock and he was a natural at that also. There are more MILFs like me who understand, so stick with us mature sluts. Laura Laura and Dave

We were seduced by a couple we had been friends with for a few years. It was no secret that my wife and the other husband had the hots for each other and when his wife mentioned to me that she'd let him be with another woman once, I told her I thought that was cool. She asked if I'd be upset it he was with my wife and I, honestly, told her that I wouldn't if she wanted to. So, his wife and I waited until my wife and her husband had broken the ice and then the four of us had a really fun night together.

We haven't been to a club in ...forever. But, it is frequently requested that I wear something sexy if we meet for drinks or dinner beforehand.

From Mrs. viewpoint: over 8 hurts She has turned some down. Girth is good