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We used to spend a lot of time on the party lines, this was back in the early 1990s. There were some interesting chat lines we found for couples and singles. The lines were moderated, so if someone really got out of hand they'd be kicked off. We spoke offline with couples and a lot of single guys and a surprising number of single ladies. The phone was a safe and hot activity for us for a few years. We'd go down on each other and jam the phone right in there LOL It was good stuff. There was another phone service, you left ads and people left messages in your mailbox. That one you had to pay for but it was worth it, we met several people off of that. There were 2 singles that we really clicked with - a male and a female. We spoke to them separately for about 2 years and never met them in person. We even had the four of us on the phone a few times and it was a lot of fun, but neither wanted to meet in person and we were ok with that. After a while, we felt comfortable enough that we began giving our number to people we felt good about. After a while, we felt good about a lot of people :-) We did ask most people not to call on weeknights, but that Friday, Saturday and especially Sunday night were good. There was one guy that my sweetheart talked to only on Sunday nights. He'd call after his girlfriend left, they'd chat in the bedroom. I'd wait until they were going good and join in. Now that we're older, we thought about going that route again, just because it's something we were already comfortable with. But we have to figure out how to handle the phones. Seems less safe to use your home phone for this nowadays. Maybe we'll get a cheap cell. Anyway, just reminiscing.

Well, one of us is a geneticist and it would be hard to separate heritable (genetic) factors from subtle behavioral imprinting. One approach would be to look at children of swinger families where one or more children are adopted yet raised in the same environment. Another would be to go back to some of the twins-separated-at birth-and-placed in different homes. We think that kids pick up on parental behavioral attitudes and cues. Many kids of swinger parents eventually "get it" that mom and dad are happy and they are fine with that. They may not immediately embrace the LS, but they may gravitate to partners with personalities that align with the LS and be less resistant to the idea if an when the opportunity comes up.

That was supposed to be genetic component! Fucking spell correct! Thanks for the correction Emt.

We and the couples who we play with all enjoy having the men pump their semen into (not onto) the women, and the sloppy seconds aftermath. So we are a closed group of couples that only plays among ourselves.

There's no staliga like nostalgia. My wife and I remember this. One of these party lines is how we initially met each other.

Yes, I also feel the age of swingers is tilted towards later in life. Many couples get married in their twenties and early thirties, believe that monogamy is the way to live, I don't think the interest in other people goes away, it's just subdued. Then as the couple reaches their late forties and fifties, the children are growing into high school, they begin to look at being empty nesters. They see their sex life as ordinary, if not just plain boring. This is the point when some couples start fantasizing and consider non-monogamy. And some take the next step, enter the LifeStyle. Certainly not all swinging couples follow this pattern, it just seems typical.

I had a strange experience with this. couple of years ago. My wife and I ended up sharing a voyeur room with another couple and figured they were into a full swap. He was older than his wife nd she was very attractive. She was very interested in me, but he didn’t seem very interested in my wife. As things progressed he explained that his wife really wanted to fuck me and that he just wanted to watch and if that would be okay. My wife, being super cool always, didn’t take offense and offered to suck his cock while he watched his wife and I. He wasn’t interested so my wife being the exhibitionist that she is just sat back and masturbated. He directed me as I took his wife. He told me what to do and what he wanted to see. I was definitely strange but I was super turned on by the whole idea. We spent the entire hour in every possible position. She wanted my wife to join as we were finishing up and while she was riding me he finally finished himself off and shot one of the biggest loads I’ve ever seen. As we were cleaning up and getting dressed he explained that he had been denied an orgasm for a month and the whole scene was a big fantasy for them both. Pretty weird but fun and hey, just proves sometimes you gotta go with the flow.

First time we did it included a friend and a lot of wine. It ended up being a very interesting and erotic threesome. To summarise as my friend (late 40s and a recent divorce´) began to thrust harder without protection he tried pulling out and my wife grabbed his hips and pulled him back in to finish. She ended up, and mind you he is very "Not her type" but in the heat of the moment told him "fill me with your seed, spray it deep inside me, I want to feel you cum"... and he did, he looked at me in shock I nodded it was ok. Otherwise when we do it is almost always protected.

I just posted a whole 'nother thread about this. We're out of the closet: confronted by our adult daughter

My hat is off to the couples that are completely open about the lifestyle. I have some friends who got "outed" due to their having a website, back in the day when normal people ran their own websites. They came out to their parents and children as swingers. It was rocky for them at first, but they seem to be among the most open and happy people I know. I can't imagine having that conversation though!