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Thank you beyond words, MrandMrsA. It's been ten years since Laura's death. I have to admit I've never recovered fully. Oh, I function well but the pain is still there. Even so, the joys our years together are still in my heart every day. On the evening before she died, Laura and I promised to meet at Crazy Horse's tipi in the Happy Hunting Ground. While I look forward to it, I've still a lot to accomplish here on Earth. I spend most days writing or editing what I've written. So far, two novels and a number of short stories, both fictional and true, are behind me. I don't expect a Pulitzer or Nobel. While I copyright my efforts, I plan to publish nothing while I live. "The Boys" both graduated from universities with honors and are on their own, living out of Oklahoma, and headed for a bright future. The younger (Twenty-eight) is in a relationship that will likely lead to marriage. Thirty says he's too young for marriage. At his age, I'd have said the same. (I was 42 when Laura and I married.) When I write something on this Board, I always hope I connect with someone. Y'all have showed me my efforts are not in vain. I'm grateful. Alura

Yes, you did the right thing! It'd be different if you met while everyone was sober, agreed to have sex, then drank. However, on a legal and practical level, no realistic consent could be given/obtained when someone is completely inebriated.

H/W/P is somewhat subjective with couples we've met. For us it means that we have some kind of shape (male=shoulders wider than waist, waist more narrow than hips, Hips smaller than shoulder. It also means a belly that doesn't have to be lifted and moved from 1 side to the other to see his dick.) Woman= shoulders that the form can be seen, boobs that are not overshadowed by belly rolls, hips that aren't wider than shoulders and thighs that can open sufficiently to accommodate a H/W/P male). We are just not sexually attracted to obese people and stating that we are, by our admittedly subjective standard, a H/W/P couple and look for the same seems far more kind than posting that we're not sexually interested in BBWs or in men who haven't actually seen their penis since college. In response to Fullswap, we don't look at ourselves as "fit sexy and beautiful people" although truth be told, to my prejudiced eye, Mrs Doc IS very sexy and beautiful. We both work to stay reasonably fit and attractive by our personal definition and those are the kinds of couples we seek for playmates.

There is (was) a couple that we connected with so much with that we became a family. We traveled together. We partied together. We fought. We loved. We planned for the future. We lost the male half of the other couple to cancer in July. We cried together. We miss him. We played, and still play with other people. We will never forget the good times, or the bad times. I don't think there will be another fourth, we three will continue our relationship until we become two, then one, then none. It is a love that cannot be broken. It hurts. It always will. This is poly.

There has been plenty of discussions about whether couples allow kissing of other people while having sex (which we have no problem with), and about kissing your own spouse while he or she is having sex with other people (which we find loving and intimate). Recently toward the end of playing with two other regular couples, the situation developed where I was fucking my own wife missionary and she was sucking another guy, trying to get him up. It wasn't successful, so he started kissing her deeply and massaging her breasts. I've done the reverse with my wife many times, but this was a new thrill, watching them be intimate while I was just the workhorse trying to get her off. When she did come she pulled and hugged him hard. Anyone else try this?

I would like somebody to explain to me the current standard of Vaginal (and Penile, for that matter) appearance. Since my divorce, almost every woman I have had sex with, married or otherwise, has had a bare puss. Why? I can understand that you trim you bush for bathing suits, but I can see no other good reason to peel yourself like a grape. Is it to make yourself feel younger? Do you WANT to look like a pre-teen girl or boy?. I don't get it.

My wife is not interested in oral sex. Blowjobs have become rarer over the years and only when I’m freshly showered. She’s never cared to receive oral - I can do it because I love it but it doesn’t do much for her. I’m pretty sure from past experience that it’s not my technique at fault. To her oral just delays what she wants which is a cock inside her. We haven’t played with another couple yet but I’m wondering how they would react if she just wanted to move to the main event right away. Would that be a turn off or disappointment or something you would just roll with? If she just wants you right away is that a turn on? On the other hand I don’t know how she would react in the heat of the moment, maybe she would surprise me

We started out just playing around on different sites. The phone app 3fun was our first hit, adultfriendfinder was our second. We got on many sites and looked for interaction before paying. The 3fun one has had only the one actual full interaction (playing) then maybe 15 conversations, most being married men trying to cheat. AFF we have had many good conversations and have played with one couple many times and have a few other couples interested at a further distance. None of the others seem to work well for us, as always YMMV and where you are will determine what sites work best for you. We have only been doing this for a few months now and are having the time of our lives, have a stronger relationship then ever and have made good friends. Best of luck, Mr. and Mrs. Dazed

Mrs. Alura when kissing: Me: "I love you, Darling!" Another man: "Make he hot, Cowboy! I'm gonna fuck your brains out!"

Aww thanks guys thanks for the feed back. Ok so just chill and have fun got it.

For the cuffs themselves we use SportSheets. However, for the rope, we go to Lowes and get a hank of really soft rope by the yard off the spool. Seal the ends and you just saved yourself a bunch vs. these "systems/kits". If you're really hellbent on webbing instead of rope, get it (and all the buckles/hardware) from Strapworks. That's where I ordered a lot of supplies from to build my swing.

Im imagining Mrs Doc and Mrs Blue double teaming that room. The guys would be lined up out the door and down the hall!

It could be a deal breaker for some but I don't think many. My first wife wasn't big on foreplay, or oral, but she was probably the best fuck I've ever experienced. She always said that she just loved penetration.

Alura, I have read many of your posts on this website, and one thing that always comes through with your words is the love you HAVE for your your Laura. Often I have read your posts and find my eyes welling with tears. I hope you realize what a mentor you are to not only people in the lifestyle, but to people in all relationships. We have a lot to learn from your wisdom. Peace.

I’ve sucked a lot of cocks in that room!

My husband about 12 years ago said he had a fantasy he wanted to watch me have sex with his best friend and also join. Wanting to watch me enjoy his friends much bigger cock my husband is 5 3/4” long and almost 5” around and his friend 9 1/2” long and 6 3/4” around. While the idea when he asked turned me on it also scared me because I didn’t want to ruin our marriage. My husband reassured me that it wouldn’t, I was also happy it was his friend who I was actually attracted to. Because like I told my husband if it was one of the other guys it wouldn’t have happened. It was amazing and yes size made it better and awakened me to a new kind of pleasures. I was honest with my husband my desires wanting to do this again. It became a weekend thing for the three of us and his friend stayed many nights during the work week in bed the three of us. I know his friend awakened my sex drive into over drive but I enjoy sex even more with my husband as well. It was about 7 months into the three of us constantly enjoying sex together. His friend like always making me orgasm we was kissing very passionately. I said I love you so much and we was having one of our more intense love making moments. I didn’t think about my husband who was laying next to us on the bed. After looking at my husband I realized what I said and felt like shit. After his friend went home the next day I apologize to my husband feeling so bad. My husband smiled and kissed me saying it ok I understand we all enjoy each other for along time having very intense moments we share. We started talking allot about it after over the next few days I thought allot about it as well. I told my husband I love him more than before we ever did this but wanted to be honest I love his friend as well. Something inside me had to make it clear I wasn’t exactly sure other than I’m in love with his best friend. My husband smiled saying I know we talked about this already it ok. I said I’m in love with both of you sweetie and don’t want to ever lose either of you. We kissed and he said it’s fine I know, we talked allot more about it and also talked with his best friend. Shortly after that his friend moved in with us and it’s been amazing.

Watch "There's Something About Mary"...they tell you in the movie how to do it, and how to keep your hair in place.