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We’re 68 (M) and 63 (F). Ten days ago, we played with a couple who are 48 (M) and 45 (F). We guess they must have seen something in us when were talking, because it was actually the younger woman who proposed going to the playroom. And we guess we must have done something right once we got there, because they’ve sent us two emails saying they want to see us again. Imagine our surprise that we did the “cougaring”! (They were SUPER themselves, by the way!)

Tonight I had a pretty important realization that I might need some help/advice when it comes to touching and initiation of getting physical. For those that didn't see the other thread about our first club/ls event this past weekend, it did not go well. While I didn't go into detail about it on my end, I didn't get much female attention. But what little attention I did get ended pretty quickly and I think it might have had something to do with my approach to initiation. Let me explain. My wife was hitting it off with the male half of the other couple but I was not getting any real vibes of desire from the female half. My wife told me to go make some moves. Soon after, the male half told me the same and pointed at her ass as she was bent over and he grabbed her ass and caressed her pussy under her dress. But in my mind, because she didn't express any interest and the years of experience I have teaching college kids about consent when it comes to sex, this was a massive no-no in my book so I balked at the situation and continued to get no attention. Then toward the end of the night, my wife and the guy (who had both been playing with each other throughout the night through/under clothes) told me to go give it another try. So I did. Started just by lightly brushing her arms, asked her if she was okay with it to which she replied "I wouldn't still be standing here otherwise", so I put my hands on her hips from behind and we started to grind ass to crotch. A few seconds later she walked back over to him and continued dancing. Game over. I would really appreciate some thoughts and advice on being a little smoother at 1) Expressing interest and 2) gaining consent to start touching if we're on the dance floor or some other place where some good dialogue isn't possible that would lead to a more natural progression that included expression of mutual interest, consent, etc... Thanks!

Remember when a Gentleman played by a more complicated , but more natural set of rules? We never assumed that we were welcomed. We did the dance. Yes an arm or hand would wander and the lady would feel free to remove it. If it stayed in place and we felt that she looked comfortable then perhaps a bit more advancement. Eventually she would take your hand and lead you off, give you a passionate, indicative kiss, get up and leave or slap your face. As long as the Gentleman was a Gentleman there was never cry of rape or attack. It was a dance for two skillfully played out. In a swinger environment I still play by those rules. Being of a definitely non aggressive nature it took several parties for the Ladies to figure out that I was not being standoffish. Now they know that I truly enjoy talking and doing the dance. They feel less like prey and more like, well, hot Ladies. For me and my desired results it plays out well and I get to be who I am by nature. It is not about body count.

Just got these messages but let me say omg. This Was a crazy long weekend. The conversation pool was off the hook. Maybe to much. We ended up with two threesomes and one couple by the Monday. Started off just having sex in front of people in the pool Thursday. Ended up with a threesome Thursday and Friday nights. Saturday night which was crazy ended up take another couple back to the room. Sunday went to Epcot to recover after our 4am nightly adventures. Everyone was so nice to us. To nice. One thing we realized is this is what they do we were rookies. Must have seen us coming a mile away. So charming and smooth it’s scary. If we can do it over we may have made a few better decisions. But overall it was an exciting weekend. Just be smart and do what’s best for you as a couple not what the smooth talkers want. The resort was amazing though loved it so beautiful. We loved being naked by the pool was some nice bonding time. Thanks for the replies.

well njbm...she might have been spunky...especially after successfully servicing three men!!! ( a little play on words there )

Cougared? That is the boldest example of using a noun as a verb that I have seen on s long time. To this old man, a 48-years-of-age woman is just slightly beyond adolescence. I am glad that you all had a good experience.

It only counts towards being a slut if they come in you, and if it's in your mouth that you swallow.

We are both sluts, but in a nice and happy way.

Before Mrs Doc and I met, I was dating a woman who had a young and very curious cat. She and I were in the middle of a fun afternoon delight. She was on her back and after quite a bit of foreplay, I slowly slid balls deep into her.We were at somewhat of an angle so that as I retracted a bit, my balls would hang down and sway a little. Im not bragging about size, it was just the angle of penetration! I'd move a little, my balls would sway, she'd groan. After the third thrust, I felt a very tentative touch on my scrotum. Next thing I knew, my balls were being batted so that they moved. Apparently, this was amusing to the cat because she then started to smack my balls, whap, whap, whap! I started laughing, had to explain to her why and then she started to laugh. The cat gave my balls one more smack and jumped off the bed. I lost my erection from the laughter especially after I thanked her for having the wee beastie declawed as a kitten. It wasn't the first time the cat had come into bed like that, she apparently was drawn by the woman's moans, but it was the first time the cat participated.

For the past eighteen years, Friends, I've watched this board go from belligerent and offensive to one of the most courteous sites on the net. I hate to see us go backward. Perhaps it's time to ignore this thread and allow it to be buried.

Here are some we listen to, that aren't listed above: Swinger Diaries: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/live-desire/swinger-diaries The Black N Kinky Lifestyle: The Priory Society:

I wrap mine in a tissue and put in a lined garbage basket. I have seen less sanitary people leave them around. Ick!

Well we went against the advice of many and decided to come out to some friends we were traveling with. We told them we were going to a club and briefly what it was about and that we were in the lifestyle. We felt we knew them well enough to know what their reaction was going to be. We were wrong. We expected that they wouldn't be bothered by it. They typically are live and let live kind of people so we figured they would just be cool with it. Instead of just letting us do our thing though they started asking questions. "How does it work?" "Do you really have sex with other people?" "Are you really ok with seeing him/her with another woman/man?". Can you believe they even had the audacity to accept our invitation to join us at the club and check it out first hand? The gall of them. All kidding aside we took them to the club just to check it out. We had previously attended a club who employed only chronically underclothed women with them so we didn't think this would be a big leap. Unfortunately we showed up late on friday night and it was packed. The ratio of single males to couples was a bit off for us as well. We got to do a lot of watching and based on the noise coming from both sides of the house when we got back it seemed to do it for both couples. Saturday however was different. We got there about 30 minutes after they opened and took a walk through the play area with it completely empty. After a couple of drinks we ended up in a room together with the understanding that they were just interested in watching us at that point. We certainly were good with that. Next thing we know they are next to us on the bed and we are enjoying the sites and sounds as much as they were. It was certainly a success and frankly it rekindled our friendships a bit more as well. Our wives are certainly closer and are going clothes shopping next time we are in the same town. One of you guys has this line as their signature but it truly represented the night for us. If you don’t have to lie about sex, you don’t have to lie about anything. - John Williamson Even though it was simply a voyeuristic experience and not truly swapping it certainly allowed us to have more open and honest discussions. The wives have been chatting nonstop about the next time. Mr. Nomad

Didn't The Graduate end badly?

I tried it again yesterday during sex. Went MUCH better this time! When she was going down on me I told her how I fantasized about someone fucking her from behind or eating her while she sucked me. That caused her to moan and go a LOT harder, so she liked it.

I can’t say I know anything about squirting. I have never squirted myself and have only read about it in magazines. I just figured it was uncontrolled peeing brought on by excitement. I never discussed it with any friend and have no idea if any of my friends know about it or do it. I never even did cussed it with my husband and had no idea if he ever was with anyone who squirted. I just had my first one on one with a woman. My husband and I have been swapping with a couple we met several years ago on vacation. I have not been very open to playing with any woman. My play has always been unenthusiastic. I enjoy being alone with the husband not so much as a group thing. For the first time I was alone with her. My curiosity has grown and I gave into it. Alone we played with a toy. I had been using the toy on her and she was about to cum when grabbed the toy and she squirted like three squirts. It was like a man cumming except a pee like liquid. I gave a Wow in like what was that. We had some laughs about it and later talked about it. She said it doesn’t always happen. She did say it happen with my husband. He had never mentioned it.

Five years ago I could count them on one hand; now I do not have enough fingers or toes, but it's north of 60 for me and 40 or less for Bob, at least that's his story and he's sticking to it.

Whew, thanks for explaining that. It would be nice to see some numbers on the higher end, so I'll throw mine out there. Mine is a guess, I'd say about 170 prior to swinging and around 200 now I guess. Yes, I'm a Samantha and I love to fuck. I think Samantha's numbers are much higher though. I was active duty military and I moved around a lot, plus the guys I met where often moving around a lot too. It was hard to find someone to have a relationship with that was going to be around long enough to get serious with. I also had a lot of opportunities living in areas where the ratio of men to women was very much in my favor. Many of my former military partners had some higher numbers too. The highest I ever heard was a former FB whose number was about 345. He was in his early 30s at the time. MrGPH says he doesn't keep track of how many, but I think his numbers are slightly higher than mine.

I didn't lose count after 30.......It's been 45.....So far

Me and the wife got to thinking on this, got to remembering, got distracted and went to bed for awhile Anyways, it's about 25 different men for her, and less than 10 women for me... this is only after we started swinging. We like threesomes a lot, so she gets a lot more new partners than I do... which is fine with me.

the wildest thing i've ever done was when we went to a house party, and we also celebrated my b'day... we'd been there many times before and knew most everyone there, so they blindfolded me and laid me out on a table... i was there for about the next hour while everyone took turns pleasuring me What a night!! can't wait for my next b'day!

Isn't it interesting how few people are willing to say how many people they've had intercourse with in their lifetimes? Both of us were married once previously. I was her 8th sexual partner, and she was my 6th. After nearly 9 years of swinging, she now has had intercourse with 42 men and I have had intercourse with 34 women. So I am averaging about 3 new sex partners per year since we started swinging, and she is averaging about 4 new sex partners per year. I guess we're just sluts, but we sure are HAPPY sluts!