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There we were in the afterglow of the four of us having just completed the first round of group grope sex with each other. We, the two ladies laying side by side were enjoying a face-to-face embrace and nuzzling as our opposite hubbies were spooning us, when I felt a warmness that was way beyond sexual fluids of ejaculation and oral sex. It was pooling between the other wife and my crotches and, had grown to spread both upwards and downwards. Then I felt the fluid continue to spread back to my rear between me and her hubby. Pulling back, I exclaimed "who is pissing in the bed?" We ladies quickly yelled at the men and both men claimed it wasn't them. The other wife also exhorted it wasn't her and I sure as hell knew it wasn't me! She said, "If I were going to pee on you, it would be in the shower not a bed that can get soaked." Turned out, one of our friends that had been over earlier in the day and had used our bedroom to change her infant's diaper. She didn't even think...yup...it was 1972 and she had stabbed diaper pins right into our waterbed mattress. Guess the exertion of four full grown and highly charged sexual acrobats loosened the pin holes really well. We realized what happened and our military husbands were quick to grab the duct tape for repairs, towels and fresh sheets. After all the night was young...and so were we. By the way, she was telling the truth about the shower. We two ladies literally got into a pissing contest to see which of us could pull up our pussy and pee a stream like a guy. We never laughed so hard. (Ah the virtues of Jack Daniels)

First, I think you have to stop drinking the Title IX kool-aid. Having a contractural like discussion that ends with two people saying "Yes, I would like to have sex with you," and then pledging to cease and desist should the other party rescind permission might be necessary for people who lack the intelligence to figure out or the empathy to read his/her partner, but for anyone not lacking those abilities, contractual law is a real mood killer (unless you're both weird corporate counsel.) I would say that anytime I have wondered whether or not a woman was "really" interested in me, I was being optimistic, not realistic. Women seem to be pretty good at conveying interest without being as obvious as guys are. Just go incrementally. First talk to her. If you are having difficulty keeping the conversation going, you are most likely sol. On the other hand, if the conversation is effortless, then put yourself in range to be touched. Then, just go back and forth a little at a time, by giving her the opportunity to go a little further. Also, you could just try something like asking her to kiss you. (Despite what many people say, I think asking a woman if you may kiss her doesn't come across well. It's sort of like holding up a sign that says "awkward." If you have to ask, then you shouldn't do it because she isn't interested.) Talk first - about something other than sex, unless you're a real wordsmith. That ought to tell you quite a lot. Then do a reality check to see if you are dismissing all of the negative signs in favor of optimism.

In a play room situation, asking to join is good. Its also good to just look for signs. If a couple are watching us and we want company, Mrs Doc has been known to simply reach out to the guy or woman and gently guide him/her to join us. In that situation eye contact and welcoming body language are a must. Pay attention. If you're unsure ask.

Ha ha ha!! Saw what you did there!!

I recommend newbie night. They explain things to newbies, there are other newbies in the same boat and the veteran swingers will be happy to gently pop your cherry. IMHO.

Just got these messages but let me say omg. This Was a crazy long weekend. The conversation pool was off the hook. Maybe to much. We ended up with two threesomes and one couple by the Monday. Started off just having sex in front of people in the pool Thursday. Ended up with a threesome Thursday and Friday nights. Saturday night which was crazy ended up take another couple back to the room. Sunday went to Epcot to recover after our 4am nightly adventures. Everyone was so nice to us. To nice. One thing we realized is this is what they do we were rookies. Must have seen us coming a mile away. So charming and smooth it’s scary. If we can do it over we may have made a few better decisions. But overall it was an exciting weekend. Just be smart and do what’s best for you as a couple not what the smooth talkers want. The resort was amazing though loved it so beautiful. We loved being naked by the pool was some nice bonding time. Thanks for the replies.

Ok so after finally getting started in swinging proper we found or they found us I should say an amazing couple. We are both 27 but he is 52 and she is 48 though it was fantastic all the same. We met at a bar which we have never been to a bar so that was great. We sat next to eatch other and was rubbing thighs which was like damn. They had so many swinging stories it was amazing and they were pretty cool people. After that we met back at their place and chilled in their hot tub. (We have never been in a hot tub before either) After some chatting they started making out and at first I was like this guy is kissing my wife but then I gave my parter my undivided attention. We did separate rooms and I'll let you fill in the rest. We are on a fwb hall pass with them now and am loving it.

Cougared? That is the boldest example of using a noun as a verb that I have seen on s long time. To this old man, a 48-years-of-age woman is just slightly beyond adolescence. I am glad that you all had a good experience.

I'm surprised no one has alluded to a certain professional football coach, who got publicly outed due to a foot fetish video with his wife, on SLS.

One of our favorite bumper stickers reads….They NEVER sacrificed the sluts! I think that over the decade and a half that we've been swinging the term slut has lost a lot of its pejorative impact for us. While I would object to a guy saying to my wife, "take your skirt off slut", I have said occasionally after a party, "OMG baby, you were quite the little slut tonight". It got me a blush and a sexy little smile.

I'd say it really rather depends on what you mean by "slut." I consider my wife to be my wife. She an intelligent, educated, strong, confident, sexually open, more-than-a-little-weird woman. I would also say she's a slut... in that she likes sex, enjoys sex with a wide variety of men, enjoys having sex with multiple men at the same time, is a bit kinky and is perfectly comfortable with all of that. However, I don't consider the word "slut" to be pejorative in this sense. I don't think any less of her because she enjoys these things. In most of the world, women who enjoy sex are demeaned and insulted, while men who do the same are lionized. I reject that out of hand.

I'm sure there are plenty of people who discussed this, but I couldn't find anything much on a quick search, so apologies in advance. We went to our first (really second, but first time we went, we left very shortly after). The experience this time was great, but the biggest issue was how excited I got once a couple walked in on us and watched us go at it. We didn't swing that night but just the whole atmosphere and exhibition was such a huge turn on, I finished way too quickly. Luckily, the wife got hers twice beforehand, but as soon as the other couple walked in, I had about a minute before finishing up lol. I really feel like it's natural for something so new, but feel like maybe other people's stories or discussion might help. We were able to take it slowly afterward and get me back up, but still wish my performance matched up with what we normally have at home. Any words from you all?

It is awesomely erotic. Like the point of no return. I remember fondly watching him seize up as he exploded deep inside.