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Lioness you are right, just venting. I’m not mad and not blaming. Anal has never been something I just had to do. I admit I attempted and always stopped fearing hurting or injury to the Mrs. My attempts was a curiosity or the novelty of it. She never stopped my attempts. I stopped when I thought I was hurting her. We never discussed it and thinking I shouldn’t have stopped. Thinking now she wanted the experience. Now she might be asking me to try again. East he couldn’t have known she was a bum virgin. I am getting over the act. She wasn’t hurt. She also was eager to tel me it happened. That could be a sign she wants US to experience it together. There was something we both experienced for the first time, a threesome and swinging. Now we have other firsts to think up.

Padoc if you read the thread you will see she wasn’t a Virgin vaginally or orally. I don’t think anyone today marries a virgin. He’s not blaming her for not saving herself. I was not a virgin in any sense but I do have guilt too. My first threesome should have been with my husband. We were together as a couple, not married, when I had one with a friend. I know I would most likely not be where I am now sexually if I didn’t do it the night I did. It literally changed my life. There is no way I would have done this with my husband if I had not done it before. And even though I had done it all before we met, I am certain I was the first one my husband ever did anal to. And you know what? It was special for us. Toe please don’t hold this against her. I think you are just venting here and that is fine. I have used this forum to say things I can’t share verbally with others.

Facetime would be useful for judging whether or not a couple's intent is sincere. But if you convey a desire for sexting or swapping sex tapes, the couple will very likely perceive that you are simply attempting the troll.

We've been to both resorts and just returned last night from 8 nights at Desire (4 at RM and 4 at Pearl). We had Friday night at RM as our last night and Saturday night at Pearl as our first night so we could experience a weekend night at each. We have been to Pearl a number of times before for a week at a time. It is true that the vibe is set by the crowd that is there at the time. We saw more action going on at Pearl on Saturday than we did the whole 4 days we were at RM. Ages varied at both as well as bodies style so don't plan on a "hard body" setting at either. Each person you ask will have their preferences and we find an even mix between Pearl and RM preferences. If you can swing it, we would suggest 4 days at each. Any shorter than that and you really don't get into the swing of things (no pun intended). If you can't spend at least 4 days at each, then pick the one and stay there. Pearl: Nicer rooms (88 total), more open space on the grounds, huge pool and giant jacuzzi, we think the disco club is better in size/layout, RM: Maybe better beach, 114 rooms but varying degrees of style from spartan to luxurious, small pool and jacuzzi, disco and jacuzzi up a flight of stairs (not a good combo with sexy heels and drinking). Habatchi grill is very good. Staff at both are top notch. You can't go wrong with either. Remember - even a bad day at Desire beats a great day anywhere else every time! :)

Stepping outside of the cage of society’s monogamy beliefs and experiencing a open sexuality as an adult consensual playful activity has its roots dating back to the beginning of known human social living. Back in history when humans lived as tribes and clans, small bands and groups, yet to be organized into kingdoms and nations. As varied as each area of human existence. Over the generations and centuries sexuality, sexual practices and acceptable activities expanded and broadened. Humans are adventurous, curious, imaginative and have the ability to seek and enjoy many pleasures....sex and sex play is just a small part. As a single uncommitted individual you answer to your self first, then to others in your life. Your responsibilities. When in a committed relationship situations, activities, dreams, goals desires....life together....becomes a shared experience....discussed, decided, worked to achieve and experience together. Trust and commitment. Each adult has their own choices to make. To share and discuss openly, to decide together. Desires, goals, willingness....change as time goes on but stays grounded within the committed couple. So in the end the two of you decide. Regardless if it is situational, planned or as a lifestyle for you both. The freedom is making it your shared experience.....not designed around others influences. And yes.....many have some level of this type of experience.

2NoLimit Well that's interesting - really - I think that every one must take responsibility for there actions no matter what "drove them to it" i agree with you about everyone ganging up on the husband - i have seen many post here and else where - where if it was the woman it would be "oh love it's ok your only human" That's why for myself i think each person needs to take it on their shoulders, if you screw up then either fix it or leave but don't try and get your way at the expense of your so called loved one or SO. i went back and re read sun&moon's post and i don't for the life of me find it the way you do - ( sun&moon nothing personal guys i just can not see it but value your view point 100% ) All i see in it is showing her a way to manipulate him just as he is doing to her. Whether man or woman that's not right in my book. I really think many have forgotten what a true Equal relationship is about - anyway i am not trying to have ago i really find it interesting the way we all see things differently and that's why i respect 100% every ones views - though i do like to argue them out sometimes lol.

They were back again today, and even if they were a troll (not saying they are or are not...it doesn't matter), it's always best to treat every question or comment as real and offer the best help one can...what if they are real and looking for help? There is always the chance that a topic can help someone else reading it or reading it in the future. It never hurts to be kind and offer good advice. I would rather find out that whoever this is wasn't cheated on and this is just a made up story, but I'm always going to treat it as real. There's nothing wrong with that and no harm will come from it. Next time she comes, I do hope that she provides us with an update.

I'll agree with the others, only a few times in life do you come to a fork where deciding which one to take is a grave decision...this is one of those times. There are pros and cons to both paths, and I think you know what they all are, better than we ever will. From the age range I'm guessing you to be in too, age becomes a factor too. Time is flying by, so starting over may be harder now than before. Or, in some ways, it may be easier too. I think it comes down to this - trust. Can you see yourself ever trusting him again? Not right away of course, but ever. If the answer is no, then the next question is are you ok living with that? If that second answer is no too, then I think the path is clear. Assuming you get past that hurdle, then the next question is are you ok going back to the way things were between you two sexually? If the answer to that is no, then you are just setting yourself up for resentment. Suffering through that again for a while when you are trying to make things work, that's to be expected. But if it goes on, the resentment will start to creep in and that will start to undermine anything you may have started building back. It's a tough place to be, and we're sorry you are having to go through this. No matter how much he tries to shift blame, it's totally not your fault, always remember that and draw strength from it. Good luck.

Swinging and cheating (other than having sex is involved) have nothing to do with each other. Swinging is done WITH your partners participation and consent, cheating is done without and in secret. That you both participated in MFMs or FMFs has nothing to do with this. He went out, found another woman, had sex and formed a relationship with her. Don't get sidetracked, he cheated. As already stated, you now must choose if you want to stay or go, and if you choose stay, then HE must choose if he wants to stay or go. Either way, swinging is done for a long time (if not forever) until the problems can be fixed in your relationship. You both have some thinking to do and then some honest talking. Let us know how things progress from here. We wish you the best...