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There has been plenty of discussions about whether couples allow kissing of other people while having sex (which we have no problem with), and about kissing your own spouse while he or she is having sex with other people (which we find loving and intimate). Recently toward the end of playing with two other regular couples, the situation developed where I was fucking my own wife missionary and she was sucking another guy, trying to get him up. It wasn't successful, so he started kissing her deeply and massaging her breasts. I've done the reverse with my wife many times, but this was a new thrill, watching them be intimate while I was just the workhorse trying to get her off. When she did come she pulled and hugged him hard. Anyone else try this?

I find the repeated description of this woman offensive. Such language may impede your ability to build friendships with people just meeting you. Try lesbian or gay instead of “lesbo”, and say she is your physical opposite and you are not attracted to her instead of “ugly, short, skinny.” It’s hard to be sympathetic, and thus far your choice has been to keep allowing it because you say your sex life is better. Your husband comes across as rather creepy.

If this story is true then you've received ample advice. Act on it and quit whining about it. If you are a troll, quit wasting our time.

"I usually joke we’re a in a quite normal relationship and nearly divorce four times a year, and there is unfortunately some truth to that. To say my wife has a volcanic, Latin character is a massive understatement." Well, swinging for most folk is for fun without any drama. It doesn't sound like your wife is into that scene. Are you? Knowing what you've told us about your relationship, I probably wouldn't want to play with you. But it's not my life, I wish you the best of luck.

The problem is when cousins reproduce together, even second cousins shouldn’t.

Regardless of MFM or FMF, I think this is one of the most fun things to do in a threesome. One partner focuses on stimulating whoever's in the middle while the other focuses on fucking properly. Mrs. E's first spit roast ended with her getting her nipples sucked and licked while I finished up behind her and she described it as "psychedelic".

Golly. Back in my community college days, even the adjuncts had private offices to get banged out in. Maybe they didn't have health insurance, but they had doors that locked.

So, what have you done to stop this? Just say no!

Oral after intercourse is hotter, especially if it's another couple that just finished intercourse. Then kissing.

Saw my doc for a check up the other day and asked for a refill on Viagra that he had gave me a couple years before (recreational use in practice). He gave the script for 100 mg and we discussed that I cut it with a pill cutter because I respond well to a lower dose and he was fine with it. I mentioned that V use sometimes gives me a headache and asked did he have any trial doses for Cialis. He said no but wrote me a script for Cialis (20 mg) and said try both and see which one works better. Very easy conversation, talk to your Doc!

Lioness, you are on the cutting edge of bagels and lox. You are right that most people contribute, but some do not. People notice. We want to be helpful.

Zabar or Barney Greengrass were in my neighborhood growing up. H&H Bagel. Funny thing we were just on the East Side and went to Ess-a-Bagel and I have to say Asians found where great bagels are. In N.J. we have some good bagels too. As for lox we go to Costco for Brooklyn lox. The price is right and the crowd loves it. Don’t know if it goes with the hamburgers, ribs and sausages that others bring. Hate to complain but the Italian bread in Central Pennsylvania isn’t the same. Most people chip in but always there are those who don’t.

People always remember generous and helpful guests. We try to bring a gift (bottle of wine) for house party hosts, more wine for the guests and a dessert or appetizer. PSU Lioness, if you are anywhere near NYC, Zabar’s on the Upper West Side has the best lox and smoked fish on the planet. No connection to us, we’re just happy customers.

Could not agree more!!

Please tell us about your dream and how it felt. One of the (pleasant) surprises in our poly family is how our two guys have not only been not jealous about sharing us women sexually, but also treat each other's children equally as their own.

Exactly. And our marriage is stronger for it. So many vanilla, "monogamous" marriages have incredible tension around sex. That is all gone away for us. It would be as if a couple had to always eat the same food together, watch the same programs together, etc.

How have your experiences changed you...for better or worse over time. Both in and out of LS activities. Have you found nirvana? Have you found your niche? We did not get involved in the Life Style out of boredom or the fear of missing out.....or trying to save our relationship. To us...sexually it was just the next step. Another adventure. What committed couples with a sense and belief that sex does not define us or our relationship but meant as a fun, adventurous adult Extracurricular Activity meant to be shared.....and enjoyed by consenting adults. When you have a group of close friends, male or female, couples and singles from all walks of life, ages, experiences that not only share great times and adventures together but also intimate adventures......well that can’t be bottled and sold. It is....extraordinary. This is where we come from. Having been here a while and enjoying the posts, questions and stories I thought I might be able to lend some direction for those thinking, fantasizing or organizing certain activities in their LS adventure. I do not think of myself as an expert or all knowing.....just the male half of a committed couple.....married for 41 years....the Queen and I both being very sexually active with each other....very sharing with our intimate friends...adventurous. We have always been best friends first, lovers second, Mom and Dad....grand Parents etc etc....oh yeah and married The LS means many things to many different people. There is not a singular correct all encompassing definition. Other than possibly.....not considered main stream. And there are other Life Styles: racing, camping, traveling, foodies, art. Etc etc. so just cause someone says they are in the Life Style.....do not assume it means this life style...including sex play. That said our Life Style....this here on this board includes male/female voyeurs to virtual porn stars. From those that only play with their SO/spouse (enjoying the atmosphere and energy from a party or event) to playing in groups and multiples. So many variances and direction that it boggles the mind...... I want to help by using our, rather extensive experiences setting up, participating in not only our own group activities but also setting up the same for others, event driven and party theme group events. We are very active in our area. We have been active for over 20 years. We hosted three swing groups with parties over eight of those years. Many parties, private parties, events.....experiences. Again, not to mean our way is righteous, or the only or correct way. Just this is our take away from what worked for us and later for events, themed parties....and private organized experiences we set up for friends and group members. Also keep in mind I, we, all our close intimate friends as well as most those in the same LS play groups we belong to all follow/believe/practice the Life Style....swinging, swapping...sharing partners is for women, about women, for women to explore themselves and is in many cases controlled by women.......they are in the drivers seat. This is their time to explore.....with out label or judgement. Conflict is avoided by communication....all levels....with everyone. An openness. Men, behave well. Be gentlemanly. Bring your A game. And listen to and provide what the women....especially your SO/wife or play partner wants and you will also experience your wildest dreams. Cause without the women......all you have.....is a room full of hairy naked men with nothing to do. Open discussion, time and experience and all that is meant to happen will. What are your thoughts?

When I was trying to talk my wife into having sex with another man she thought I was just doing it so I could have sex with other women. I wasn't interested in reciprocation. My fantasy was was watching her enjoying herself with another man. I wanted her to be my favorite porn star:)

They might not be as "vanilla" as you think:) Some people do things on vacation that they might not do at home. Just be friendly and smile. A smile goes a long way. A mile? A smile is a conversation starter. You can "test the waters" by introducing bits of conversation that might give you an idea if they might be open to the idea. As i said before, people will do things away from home that they might normally do.

And then there’s Alec Baldwin’s SNL skit on his delicious Schweddy Balls. Here’s the link on You Tube:

If you want to catch fish, start fishing in a pond that you know already has fish in it. If you start fishing in a pet store, while there's ALWAYS a chance you may catch a fish, you probably won't catch the kind of fish you are looking for.

I started a thread on this subject in 2014. Here in part, large part, is what I posted: For me, it is a huge turn on for me to see a guy with large, separate, distinct balls that hang down real low and play with them. For me testicles are the masculinity of a man and I get excited just seeing them. For me it arises from being raised a sheltered Catholic girl hearing about a guy "having balls" (or "NOT having balls"), someone being a "ballbuster," a guy "getting his nuts cut off," or having "the balls of a bull," all those sayings. That part of a guy took on mythical dimensions in my pubescent teenage mind. (Not to mention those are the source of the swimming, living part of him that will live inside me for days (DAYS!) and maybe make a baby.) When I masturbated it was in my mind, and still is. And the first time I got to hold the real testicles of the guy that took my virginity (and is my current boyfriend), they were (and are) of mythical proportions. So I have never shaken my schoolgirl fascination with that part of a man's anatomy. Yet they aren't given the amount of discussion that breasts, penises, labia or even pubic hair."

Want to reiterate, we were not looking for this. The nude beach ended up being the catalyst. We did not bring the subject of swapping up, they did. I thought they were joking with us. Not only wasn’t I looking to jump in bed with another man, I was for sure not looking to see my husband in bed with another woman. We did swap separately in different cabins. I had great night. Heading back to my cabin my heart sank seeing seeing a nude woman in bed with my husband. I knew what they did, just ready to see it. Looking back my night was fantastic.

He's only in his 3rd year of undergrad. And regardless of whether or not he's a consenting adult, the fact that it creates a conflict of interest, or a potential vulnerability to abuse of authority, does not do my career any favours. There are unwritten rules. It's considered to be very unprofessional, unethical, and - considering I'm married - immoral.