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You can't imagine. You try it and if you don't like it, adjust and try again. If it doesn't work out after a couple of tries, you quit without regret or recrimination. Don't over complicate it.

I posted a thread almost two months ago asking for advice on an opportunity to do a "unicorn swap" with the wife and her friend. The responses were cautionary and I think that was warranted, since we were a little blinded by our libidos and maybe biting off more than we could chew involving someone we didn't know. So, instead, we went ahead and did half of it. Maybe still a bad idea, but we felt like it was less of a bad idea. Mrs. E and I talked about it and concluded that it wasn't a good idea because there were too many unknown quantities. Since it had sort of stayed in the storyboard phase with the neighbor, we figured we just wouldn't broach the subject and that if it came up, she'd offer a little white lie that I had just been kidding and that Mrs. E had missed the joke. Move forward a couple of weeks, and sure enough, the neighbor fished around with Mrs. E about it, she explained the situation, and while her friend was cool about it and only slightly disappointed, suggested that it was still something she wanted to try eventually and that there was no need for it to be a reciprocal thing. Surprisingly, Mrs. E told me that she wasn't just open to that, but enthusiastic about it. It sounded less complicated to her, and after talking it out, she had no issues with us trying it other than a couple of physical rules. - She didn't want me cumming inside the neighbor, even with a condom. - She wanted us all to kiss, but thought it would be too much for them to do oral on each other. - Not a chance in hell she was going to let there be a video. I tried to renegotiate that one several times. We figured that the worst case "very realistic" scenario was a rumor getting out and that while she'd consider it a bigger scandal than I would, life would go on and she'd just be rumored to be, by far, the most fun wife on the street. Life is short and she wanted to do it, and was hot talking about it in bed. Her getting hot about me with other women during dirty talk is not common but when she does she's really into it and I took it as a signal that she was definitely ready to sign up. There were some girl talk conversations I didn't pry into and we set up a date night for Saturday. Met at a neighborhood pub to get better acquainted and had an early dinner, came back to our place to hang out and have another drink. Long story short, I'm grateful to Eli Lilly and Company for the Cialis assistance with my performance, because despite getting off in the morning, some mutual making out and heavy petting on the couch turned to oral and my first orgasm happened far, far too quickly. Mrs. E was on her knees between my legs and the neighbor resting her head on my lap, while they got acclimated to kissing each other and I fingered the neighbor under her skirt, and I just thought about it all too hard and managed to end up shooting into the air right next to them. They were both startled but we laughed it off and decided to keep fooling around kissing, touching, and licking until I was hard again, then we'd go upstairs. That didn't take too long, and we ended up trying a couple of positions. Mrs. E wanted to cum and wanted me to screw her for a bit with her legs over my shoulders on the edge of the bed, and at first the neighbor hung back sitting on the bed watching, but eventually got into first touching herself, then kissing and touching both of us. I ended up putting on a condom so she could ride me for a while and go at her own pace, and she did need some time to get comfortable enough to put it in but I had fun warming her up with my hands before she sat all the way down on it and got to work. After a few minutes, Mrs. E kissed her a few times and then made out with me and let me suck on her tits while I fingered her, and when I was ready to cum I asked Mrs. E what she wanted, she deferred to the neighbor, and I ended up rolling over with her and taking the condom off to finish on her stomach while she touched herself, which she seemed to really enjoy. We emptied out the bottle of wine we'd opened and I spent the next fifteen minutes or so performing oral on both of them, and I figured we'd end it there but managed to get hard again. Mrs. E and I did 69 for a few minutes, then traded off with the neighbor, then I wanted to screw the neighbor again and let Mrs. E put on a condom so I could take her from behind while they finally got comfortable enough to really make out with each other and play with each other's breasts. Neighbor wanted her hair pulled. Eventually my legs were tired, I couldn't keep going like that, and eventually let Mrs. E jump on top without the condom to try to finish me while the neighbor rested. She did try to sit on my face for a minute but they found it too awkward being right in each other's faces. No chance I was going to climax again, it was unbelievably frustrating, but Mrs. E broke a sweat trying her hardest and came like crazy. We sent her home just after 1:00 am. Made a point of exchanging some normal-sounding pleasantries at the door in case any neighbors overheard. New experience, good experience. Never done FMF without another M hanging around somewhere. Woke up late with a brutal hard-on in the morning and dragged Mrs. E into the shower to finish up what I couldn't the night before. Neighbor texted me while we were in there that she was really glad we invited her over, then they met at the gym as usual and she told Mrs. E in person that she had a lot of fun and was happy she did it. We left it there, although we decided in bed last night after Game of Thrones that if she brings it up we're not going to automatically reject another visit as long as we don't get any weird vibes about it. She's happy we did it, too, and had more fun than she thought she would. She feels like she did something extra-salacious and pushed her boundaries and is very pleased with herself. Moral of the story, if there is one: 10mg of Cialis is an amazing tool for fighting any lingering performance anxiety.

If I enjoy her as a Lady with her clothes on I would want to give her an "O" so great time with them off even if she had not completed transition. The Lady I mentioned before just lit up, areolae and labial folds got red and swollen and it went on and on.

I am assuming that he is currently unattached, and from what you have said that the relationship that you, your husband, and his friend/your boyfriend is fulfilling for all of you. May I make a bold suggestion? You should discuss now how he will approach a relationship with another woman. It doesn't mean that it has to end what you collectively already have. There are two core possibilities: 1) If he dates another woman he is honest from early on and that your current arrangement continuing is non-negotiable. Most women will not accept it, but there will be some women who see the beauty and will actually want it to continue. 2) Your boyfriend finds his life within your current arrangement. Is that something you can imagine? But you will need to discuss matters such as children (would you bear his?) and legal and financial arrangements. For my husband, my boyfriend and me (we didn't do other swinging at first), we started our lives living option 1, just the three of us, me having children for both men. And although I did end up having a child with each of the men, we moved into option 2 by having Clair, then Lora, join our poly family. Lora and Clair also have had children by "my guys." I'm not saying what is best, other than think about it before love and life overtakes you.

Testicles are just such magic to me; all that man junk is on the outside. I just like to gently feel them and how it's all connected in the sack.

Loooove having my balls sucked, my wife likes to suck one ball into her mouth while twirling her tongue around it all while stroking my cock. It’s amazing!!!!

We were at Caliente last month and I noticed that 99% of the guys looked small when they were soft. There were a few swingers, not talking about the lifestyle people, but the way their manly appendages moved as they walked!

Kitty, if I’m reading this right I think you have a real problem here. You were just a little confusing here, so let me reiterate what I think you’re saying. If I’ve got it wrong, please correct me. You have an SO, let’s call him Bob. Although you’re not married, you think of him as your primary partner, and you want him around in a few years when it’s time to settle down, raise babies, buy a house, etc. He’s important to you. You and Bob swing together from time to time, and Bob allows you to go solo with other men if you choose to. (I assume you also give Bob the same freedom.) You have one guy you really like, Xavier. He’s a fuck buddy, but he’s not the guy you want to settle down with. For whatever reason, he doesn’t want you telling Bob what you do with him. You told Bob that, and Bob said it’s cool, *with this one man, and this one man only.* Bob expects if you hook up with anyone else, he’ll know about it. Have I got that right? Now you throw a wrinkle in: you are swinging with Xavier. Threesomes, swapping, who knows what else. In other words you’re having sex with Don, Ed and Frank. Bob expects you’re going to tell him about those other guys. But because you’re doing it with Xavier, and there’s this loophole, you aren’t telling Bob about Don, etc. This is very dangerous! Because you’re not being honest with your SO. If (when!) Bob finds out about this, he’s likely to be pissed. If I were Bob, I’d feel you were breaking your word by having multiple partners that I didn’t know about when I only gave you permission to have anonymous sex with Xavier. This will lead to a lot of drama, and very possibly a break up with Bob. What to do If I’ve got all of that right so far, I’m going to do something I rarely advise people to do: Hide the truth from Bob. NEVER tell him about Don, Ed, etc. Not now, not when you’re old and grey. But at the same time, correct the situation. This can be done in one of two ways. First (and I think this is the best solution,) tell Xavier you’ll continue to fuck him if he wants, but you’re not going to swing with him any longer. In short, go back to your original agreement with Bob. Secondly, you could go to Bob and tell him Xavier wants you to swing with him. (Don’t tell him you’ve already done that.) See what Bob’s reaction is. Maybe he’ll say okay, but you have to tell him about it. Maybe he’ll say okay, and it’s fine to keep it quiet because that’s the way Xavier wants it. And maybe he’ll say, ‘Hell, no! (I think the last reaction is the most likely.) There’s even a realistic chance he’ll want you to break up with Xavier. Whatever Bob decides accept it, if you want to keep Bob as your Significant Other. Then tell Xavier of Bob’s decision, and tell him that’s the way it’s going to be. If Xavier doesn’t like it, you may have to break up with Xavier. I wish you luck, but you’re in a real pickle. It isn’t going to be easy.

Yeah, it's no worries about them hooking up regularly, he lives in a different state and we only see him a couple times a year. She has no feelings towards him, other than him being a good friend, afterwards...she told me this. I believe her.

If swinging is ultimately about sex with others and trust, why not be ok with swinging alone. Depending on the situation. My wife and I prefer to swing together but if she finds a hot guy and I know it’s safe, why would I mind if she plays alone? If there is so much trust and communication, don’t you want your spouse to go have fun. And yes, I have played alone as well. It’s never done behind the back. It’s always discussed beforehand and the rules still apply, meaning we both have veto power

We think it's awesome that a married couple are both ok with playing separately. That's what we do. My wife has gone on dates without me.

I agree. I know I am not “tight” but I don’t think I want this. Not sure if the guys would want to try. I am not even a fan of the other double penetration.

Our answer is a bit different. We were born in the early 50's, grew up through the 60's, and so on. Like so many in our generation, we sensed that we didn't resonate well with several prevailing social norms--the prohibition against casual nudity, the prohibition against even mild public displays of affection, many double standards around sexuality, etc. Unlike so many in our generation, we didn't just "go through a rebellious phase" and then align with prevailing norms. Rather, we thought carefully about our values. Our first step into alternative lifestyles was via social nudism. With each successive step, we asked ourselves, "how does this next step fit with our values?" This has proven a durable approach--we are now together for 44+ years.

I told him his junk was fine. His scrotum is pretty big and though I find it as a plus he claims he doesn’t like it. I think he does and he’s proud of it but he claims it’s not comfortable. My sex with this friend is totally different than the sex I have with others. He’s a real close friend of ours and the only male I am with alone. I talk to him as if he was a girlfriend. Make no mistake, he is all man.

Hubbys curves up in a gentle curve from head to base. Love love love it

True, personality counts. One always prefers a connection.

If you call them "Tranny", you're going to have a bad time, and not much success.

Big Nikki here. Well, my clit* is hung like a horse and I can screw for hours -- but I really wouldn't want to keep doing the same person. Let's come a few times and move on. -- Big Nikki * I'm a tiny person; that's the only thing physically big about me.

I've had several friends who were transitioning and in one case, transitioned. For me it's a no-brainer, if I'm attracted to them it doesn't matter what equipment they have or had. I did get the opportunity to play a few years back with a friend who was transitioning MtF and I had to think long and hard whether I wanted to play with her or if it was just the novelty of the situation. In the end I did play with her and her female partner and it was fun

How rude! I see why you gave yourself that nickname though. Jenn