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Non-Monogamy & Sexual Freedom - Awareness, Education, and Acceptance Bringing about change in thoughts & ideas... regarding the openness and various possibilities in sexuality. ref> ... The above excerpt inspired this thread. (Credit where it's due.) ;-) When I was in my 20's, even my 30's, the Internet and the associated mass (global) communication outlets did not exist. BBS's like this one (as well as other websites, social media, podcasts, "dating" sites, etc.) no doubt are causing a shift in awareness & perception. An additional benefit is that at a younger age, folks can find out more information about how to more freely express themselves. It seems to me that above all else... it is about freedom. It is also (IMHO) a lot about understanding ourselves... and how we are evolving. Who & How we "Love" (or even "just have sex with") is for sure a changing landscape (based on my observation & experience). I almost see it as a mission, or a responsibility, to raise awareness on the subject of "open sexuality" (or anything else, I reckon) as we gain a better understanding of it ourselves, and are able to better communicate that. ... I have found this BBS to be an amazing outlet for education on the subject of non-monogamy (and, of course, the Swinger Lifestyle). As an example... One thing I have been thinking about lately is that it seems to be more socially acceptable these days to be gay (homosexual), than to be Polyamorous (or a Swinger). To "come out" as being gay these days is far less dangerous than it was say 50 years ago. (FYI... The Equal Employment Opportunity Act appeared in 1972.) Likewise... I sense that bisexuality, like polyamory, is not as socially acceptable as being in a monogamous gay relationship. i.e. Bisexuality & Polyamory, and the LS, all seem to automatically assume non-monogamy... and it is the openness of those sexual choices that seem to be the bigger taboo subject right now. Anyway... I get that this will not happen anytime soon (not in my lifetime, for sure). I do feel however, that there is a sort of paradigm shift going on now (regarding perceptions on sexuality), and that it is rapidly gaining momentum. (And like so many other things, will we be able, as a species, to keep up with that accelerating rate of change.) I'd be curious to hear other thoughts, ideas, and perceptions about the trends of changes related to sexuality... and the impacts to society... past, present, and future. :-) If you want to learn more (about Pansexuality, etc.)... Here are a few links to get you started: https://www.google.com/search?q=pansexuality https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pansexuality Psychology Today... About Pansexuality BTW... I stared to reply to the above referenced post in the original thread, but soon realized it may be better suited to a new topic. Thanks for indulging my ramblings.

A lesbians is born as a lesbian. A gay man is born as a gay man. A bisexual person is born as a bisexual person. A transgender person is born as one gender but after realizing they are inside a different gender, make a change. A swinger was not born as a swinger. But in another sense, all of us were born as swingers. Getting past or getting around the social convention called monogamy makes a swinger. A swinger is not a member of the so-called LGBT-Q community.

We have a hobby, not a cause. We enjoy sharing orgasms with friends but are not militant about it. We don't have a flag (other than Old Glory) nor do we think that as swingers we need additional rights beyond what is constitutionally granted to ALL Americans. So no, we don't fall under anybody's "Q".

Zeke and Luke swore-off womanizing (forever) moments after their fun-filled weekend ended early on Friday evening. An unplanned event at a red-light house in Denver unfolded. Thoroughly soaked with beer-chased whiskey, they slapped two ladies-of-the-evening around because they weren’t good whores. That turned out to be a frowned-upon act. It began when Zeke complained about loose pussy and his date referred to his pencil pecker with disdain. The situation deteriorated. “Who'd'a knowed?” Zeke later wondered. “Callin’ me ‘Pencil Pecker’ just ain’t right! A payin’ customer ain’t ought t’have t’ put up with no disrespect!” The unfortunate part (for Zeke and Luke) came moments after the sound of a slap and the hookers’ screams. Six ladies (three of them completely naked) who took the beatings of their collegues personal-like, rendered their verdict using matching pink Billy Clubs. Zeke and Luke's bruised-and-battered Billyed-bodies were brutally buffeted before the brothel into the boggy boulevard. They were told not to return, but they couldn't hear the suggestion, nor the questions raised about their heritage and general moral shortcomings. The music being being played by the stars orbiting behind their eyes muted the opinions expressed by the ladies.

Have we (the public in general, not just swingers) not divided EVERYONE into small enough subgroups? I would rather belong to the group of people as a whole and have us all work towards making the world a better place for everyone, not just the particular subgroup that they identify with.

Having dealt in the past with someone with bipolar disorder...well, she may have said for you to go now, but the bipolar part says at some point she will swing the other way and come down on you for something. Once again, fix the relationship before you swing and eventually bring drama into the other couples life (and yours).

Same here. During an MFM with my wife (or one of the other guys' wives actually), the woman usually takes care of both of us for a while, then likes to concentrate on one guy. I always prefer going second because watching the show is much better before I cum. So I'll masturbate without cumming while they fuck then go into the same hole and finish where he blew his load.

Our choice is coconut oil. You can find it in the grocery store in the condiment aisle or at Wally World in the cosmetics. 100% organic for the best. Works well in all applications including anal and easy cleanup. Doesn't even smell or taste like coconut.

Couldn't have said it better myself. I am pretty certain my views on sexuality fall well outside of the mainstream , but being a swinger is not really an identity to me in the same way as it is to LGBT-Q folks. But, that's an assumption, and just like people have a lot of uninformed assumptions about swingers, as pretty much your standard issue middle-aged straight white male, there's probably a fair amount of uninformed assumptions that went into that previous statement too.

We hate labels/pigeon holes/boxes ... by being swingers we are releasing natural sexual urges that have been stifled by years of religious rules ,

You raise an interesting point. The 'Q' can stand for either 'Queer' or 'Questioning.' Although I don't consider myself sexually queer, I'm definitely questioning traditional monogamy. However, I wouldn't say that I'm LGBT-Q, as the moniker seems oriented towards people with non-traditional gender roles. I am (more or less) heterosexual, so I don't think I fit into that camp. And, of course, I don't think it really matters what you call yourself as long as you're respectful of other people and having fun. So . . .

When my wife and I have an MFM, I usually let them play for quite awhile before I join in. As they're getting naked, I do too, and I handle my penis while she and he are having fun. I don't normally come, but just enjoy myself. When they come to a resting point, often after he's come inside her, I'll take over and add my semen to his. I don't know if you'd call this 'masturbating' though . . .

The answer is simple - have an MFM and let the other guy cum in your wife first, you can eat her out while still in the mood, then you can take sloppy seconds. Everyone's a winner - the other guy will be happy, you'll be so wound up excited you'll accomplish your goal, and your wife will have three orgasms. As for us in our poly family, the women will deliberately eat another girl's sloppy pussy because we're all bi, and well, we all like cum. The guys are bi and don't want to lick cum, but if they will go down on us afterwards.

You might try this........it worked for us with an introverted male. Put on a cd of some nice, slow, sexy music and take turns dancing with her. During each song, each of the two on the dance floor removes one article of clothing before the next male takes the floor. Of course, unless she is into the layered look, she'll be bare before you guys, but there's nothing wrong with dancing with a naked lady, right? And after all, you are still removing your clothes, so you will all soon be nude. Then you might try breaking out some quarters. She flips hers, and if it lands on heads, the she gets on her knees, if it lands on tails, she assumes "doggie"position. The guys flip............to see who matches her flip and then does either heads or tails for three minutes. then you flip again. If both guys match hers, the jut flip again! After a few coooin flips, you should be ready for the game of "tens." The winner of the flip mounts her and gives her ten strokes. The other guy then mounts her and gives her twenty. ....then thirty..............then forty..........and so forth taking turns until one of them 'cums' (something she has probably done several times since the first ten strokes). The last guy to come is declared the winner and he wins 'sloppy seconds' or whatever else you might come up with! Anyway, have fun and write it up for the rest of us to read about.