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It is a well known phenomenon that scientists call quantum entanglement. It doesn't matter if they can see each other or how far apart they are. Einstein called it “spukhafte Fernwirkung”, popularly translated as “spooky action at a distance”.

The problem with a swinger reality TV show would be that to "win" at swinging, there has to be zero drama. That's the Holy Grail. What gets ratings with TV shows is drama. So it's totally The reverse of what makes a successful swinging couple.

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The emotions actually turn out to be good feelings.

It’s crazy but we have never really thought about this. I guess that’s a good thing because we both hate labels and we definitely hate social norms. I guess we are on the Q side of the spectrum. We go to a nude beach and I love looking at the ladies as much as the guys and their cocks. He is the same. We thrive on amazing heterosexual contact, but also spend many experiences with same sex partners. I have certainly had my share of ladies work my parts while i’m also enjoying the attention of a male partner. Likewise I have had a male partner inside me while my husband provides oral stimulation to both of us. I have watched him hold a mans penis and guide it inside me or another woman and I have kissed and caressed plenty of women while he fucks them. What does that make us? L,G,B,Q, sluts, perverts, deviants...? Who really cares.. I’d call us S for satisfied I guess...but you won’t see us marching in a parade and flaunting our sexuality. It’s our private world for better or for worse.

I agree. There no percentage for the TV producers for a swinger show about successful swingers. Essentially the reality shows are about Crash & Burn. Like the YouTube videos of auto accidents, aircraft crashes, and bullies getting punked and owned. Folks who live vicariously love that stuff, but I'd be bored 10-20 minutes in. A legit documentary might be interesting. Alternately there a increasing amount of fiction about alternative life styles. 'Easy' on NetFlix is a really well done series of fictional stories about urban professionals in Chicago. Some stories touch on the LS, a few go deeply into it, and many are about other bits of almost ordinary lives. There another show from Britain of a married middle class couple who tries a open marriage and finds all the pitfalls. Both are well done, tho Easy is probably the better. Both have a healthy mix of humor and serious moments & neither gets very melodramatic of cheesy.

I agree. Our Hotwifing and swinging normally is at two to three times per month. That seems plenty of great moments for us, and leaves time for vanilla pursuits.

I think that we are already over the hump...that most people don't care who we love or how we love or even who we have sex with anymore. The one good thing that the millennials are bringing to the table is universal acceptance for (almost) anything.

There's such a thing as hedonic adaptation, and what they call the "hedonic treadmill" effect. Putting in a high amount of effort to add stimulus to your life tends to be a dead end because you eventually get used to it, then have to put in even more effort to step it up further. The same can be true of sexual experimentation. We definitely want to keep pushing our boundaries but like keeping it in small doses.

We do things in spurts. We agree that too much spice can ruin a dish and that spice can be numbing.

The original poster seems to have some serious issues which have been nicely addressed by the previous posts. To answer the question in the subject - ABSOLUTELY YES! It is about her and my desire to make her happy and enjoy life to the fullest. And we are both solid in our relationship and our love for each other to make this possible.

Hey all, First time posters. We have so many questions but I will post in the appropriate forums. Our background is we've talked about this since we first met. I was always interested but never had a partner that I felt comfortable enough to talk with about it. My wife definitely gave me the vibe she was approachable on the matter. We role played and discussed the lifestyle for a couple of years. We NEVER EVER discussed me with another woman. She wasn't having that.... unless we're in the moment. I'm fine with that because it's not my fantasy to be with another woman. We had been hot and heavy talking about this for about two weeks. I suggested going to the bar, spontaneously. She was taken aback but quickly got ready and off we went. She discussed the rules, she's the one with all the rules, on the way. I was more, "Meh, whatever happens we'll deal with it then." I honestly didn't expect anything to happen so I didn't care. She goes to the bar and orders for us while I go to the bathroom. We end up outside and she says,"Did you see the guy at bar? I flirted with him, he was cute." Oblivious to him, I had to go check it out. I came back and said,"HIM?!" I shouldn't have done that but it just wasn't anything I had pictured her going for so that was my instant reaction. We end up playing pool and I tell her to go get him and see if he wants to play with us.... play pool... get your minds out of the gutter folks. She brings him back along with a single lady that was sitting close to him. Yeah she's a bad ass. They were both there alone and we had met both of them while at the bar ordering. Now to the good stuff. The woman sat with me the whole time but nothing more. Now my wife and the guy on the other hand. My wife was all over him and reciprocated but he was turning her off because he was so worried about what I thought and what I was going to do to him. She told me about this and I said "Oh he'll be fine babe, if I was going to get upset then he would know it already." She proceeds and so does he with his hesitation. At this point my wife is fed up and with my inexperience I didn't know to go talk to him and calm him down. I had spoke and had conversations with him but not regarding the matter, my mistake. My wife eventually gets fed up and goes for the final step before she's done trying and that's the package check while making out. She wasn't impressed so she was instantly done. Now I know, I should have went and told him it was ok but I just figured he know that because I wasn't doing or saying anything negative to him about it. We are leaving and I did that... too late, she was done trying. Here's the twist. The girl that had been sitting with me all night was standing out there with us. My wife suggested we go home with her and she was down. I instantly am scared to death because this was a no... not a regular no no but a resounding NO NO! We follow her to her place and sit on the patio. My wife is telling her what to do. She made her stick her hands up my shorts and hold my cock. Mind you, I'm still scared to death and can't get past a chub. My wife corrals us up to her bedroom and we all get on the bed. My wife takes off my clothes and they both are on my dick. I'm kissing both of them and I'm in heaven when I look down and they're both taking turns with my package. The woman has a vibrator and we do that for awhile but my wife wants to get fucked so I fuck her missionary and the other woman is laying next to us. I'm having sex with my wife but I'm holding the other woman's head and we are face to face. She starts talking to my wife and I, telling me to make her squirt. I know it's not going to happen because again, can't get past a solid chub. That sends my wife over the top and she cums (not a squirting orgasm). She gets up immediately to clean up. This is just what she does. No cuddling or any of that until she cleans up. Well I stay in the bed with the other woman and she puts her head on my shoulder and snuggles up to me. Me, being way uncomfortable, am none the wiser and I accept. My wife comes out of the bathroom and gives me "the look". I instantly jump up, so fast it almost sends the woman flying off the bed. My reaction to just a split second look saved my ass there. I feel like my wife self sabotaged this because we very rarely talk about another woman. I started this and my fantasy is to see her with another man. We both want to end up fully immersed in the LS but are trying to take it one step at a time. I feel like I'm ready to see her with someone else. The LS turns her on but seeing me with another woman is hard for her to swallow at this point. We are glad to be here and look forward to all the wonderful advice we see given. Sincerely,

Its the eyes. I can feel them undressing me when I am clothed, and caressing me when I am naked.