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I first brought up the subject of gong to a club about 3 weeks ago. I never thought about it at all until a guy that works at the local club kept calling a local radio station offering he the DJs free admission. So one night on a regular date night after a few glasses of whisky I asked the wife, who is an avid reader of romantic fiction, “what is the hottest thing you’re read in your books?” She proceeded to tell me about all the MFM and swapping she’s read, and that it turned her on. There was my opening. I told her about the calls to the station and said it might be fun to go check out. She was all in. Fast forward to last Friday. We were offered an unexpected babysitter for Saturday night and we accepted. When we woke up Saturday morning we had the same conversation we usually do on a date day. What do you want to do? What do you want to eat? Where do you want to go? After doing normal everyday chores, I finally said “let’s go check out that club” She said “Thank God. I wanted to say it but didn’t know how you would react”. The plan was set in motion. I found a restaurant within a couple miles of the club and made reservations. Once at the restaurant, we had a long talk about what we thought we’d expect. What the rules of engagement were going to be and what the limits were. All said and done we agreed that we would go have a few drinks and watch. We love to people watch in everyday life anyway. Finally 9 o’clock comes and we enter the club. It was nice. Bar area was dimly light and quiet enough for conversation. Since we arrived at opening time and because it was our first time we were given a pretty extensive tour by the hostess, deliver our drinks of choice to the bar and had a seat. At first we kept to ourselves as I’m sure most do in this situation. After about 45 minutes we were approached by a couple a bit older then us (wife is 40 I’m 47) who had obviously had too much to drink. The female kept asking my wife to dance and she finally agreed. The husband started talking to me about his work and asked what I did. We had a little more small talk and the women came back. We made our exit as we weren’t really interested in talking with a drunk couple all night. We sat in the upstairs public area and watched as other couples started to file into the semi private areas. Some pulled the blackout curtains closed. Most only the sheer but a couple left the curtains open. This was our very first exposure to the lifestyle. People having sex, great sex, without worry of shame or embarrassment. We were hooked. It wasn’t long before we decided to five it a run. At first we were nervous. What would people say when they saw us? I’m a big guy (6’4 255lbs with a few extra pounds) my wife is a beautiful 5’9 185 and we both have a bit of body shame. We climbed in the bed pulled the sheer curtains and undressed. We were both super excited. This is crazy we said, but fuck it. Let’s do it. It wasn’t long before we didn’t even realize that people were there. And in a matter of minutes we opened the curtains all the way. Was this what we have been missing out on all our lives ( we’ve been married 18 years and together 22)? It was amazing. We finished got dressed and left the room. We made our way to the theater and found a seat near the open beds. We poured another drink and struck up a conversation with another couple. They were very friendly and sober. Our conversation was pleasant and soon turned to if we had been to the club or any club before. Both answers were “no” then we were asked if we had been approached by anyone yet. We said not really and told them of the previous couple. They then said that they were going to the couches in the theater area and that there was plenty of room. We were a bit apprehensive but said what’s the hell. We’re here, let’s see what happens. We followed to the theater where they took a couch and us the couch behind. There was open playing on the TVs and we watched as the other couple started. We still couldn’t believe what was happening and after about 15 minutes in the theater they announced they were going to a room. My wife asked if we could watch and they agreed. Then all the planning, thinking, worrying and anxiety went right out the window. As luck would have it the bed next to them was open. My wife and I climbed in and undressed. We opened the curtain between our beds and watched as the other couple engaged in oral and moved on from there. We couldn’t help it. My wife started giving me a blowjob to end all blowjobs. There we were. In a room with another couple having sex. Within what seemed like seconds the other wife asked if she could touch my wife. We agreed. My wife asked me if she could suck the husband and everyone agreed. Then the other wife said if my a wife got to blow her husband it was only fair that she sucked me. WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED? 2 hours earlier we were just going to watch. Now here we are in a soft swap with total strangers. It was beyond a doubt the most exciting thing we have ever done as a couple. It was so mind blowing for us that you couldn’t have knocked the smoke off our faces with a 2x4 yesterday. It seems odd to say but the experience has brought us closer together as a couple. There was no jealousy which was my wife’s biggest concern. There was freedom and love between us unlike any we have had before. We don’t know if we were just lucky this first time out or if it’s normal but we can’t wait to find out. There is much more to the story but I’ve droned on long enough. Sorry for the length of the post but I had to tell someone and this isn’t something you can share with your coworkers.

So, me and my partner of 5 years finally had our first swinging experience. And we definitely jumped in with both feet so to speak! Our first evening contained incredible highs and, unfortunately, some lows which I am left to think through hence this post. To start with let me tell you a little about us both. We are both madly in love, have a great sex life, are very good communicators and are both happy confident types. We both agree we are in the best relationship of our lives (she was previously married) and so entered this from a solid base. To get to the point we have both been discussing the idea of sex with another person for a year or so. It both turns us on incredibly so we finally decided to give it a try and went to our first club last Halloween. We discussed all possibilities but agreed that we would like to try MFM with a goal to pick up a couple or single male. We both agreed that the single male would be less complicated and I also wanted this to be a good experience for her to avoid any possible complications or jealousy on her part. In terms of rules, we would pick the individual or couple together and we would be willing to let it go "all the way" unless the other signalled discomfort (with the exception of kissing and cuddling). We also agreed there would be no exchange of contact information or contact after the event. So we got to the club of our choice and had a few drinks and after talking to several couples she found a man she liked. He approached us and seemed very cordial, friendly and a gentleman. We sat down at a table and talked a bit. After a while me and my partner danced (we both love to dance!) which naturally led to him asking if he could dance with my partner and I agreed that would be fun. They danced and all was good. Subtle flirting but at all times respectful on his part. To cut a long story short, we ended up taking a taxi back to our hotel room. More flirting in the back seat which continued over drinks in our room. Sat on the sofa I started making out with my partner which with some invitation from both me and my partner led to the three of us making out and we were all missing our clothes fairly quickly. This was one of the most erotic moments of my entire life. Skipping forward a little but still on the sofa we both indicated that he could enter her while I continued playing with her. An amazing moment that was as he first pushed into her. So far so good! Now I should mention at this point that although the evening was going well my partner and I had made one mistake already - we had been drinking quite a bit over what was a fairly long evening. Anyway, from the sofa we quickly went to the bed where me and our new friend were both playing with my partner. Fairly quickly he popped on a condom and entered her again, this time starting to fuck her quite vigorously (forgive my language). We were both a little surprised at how quickly he seemed to be moving but to be honest we both we emjoying it. It was thrilling to experience, as much for me as for her. I continued playing with her as he was in her. However, at some point the dynamic started to change. Before I knew it he seemed to be repositioning her, almost monopolising her and continued to do this. She seemed to be enjoying his assertiveness and I admit is was amazing to see her being pleasured by another. However, his many positions were certainly not aimed to include me and my partner soon appeared to totally forget I was there. I was surprised at seeing all this but was still very aroused. I did attempt to join in occasionally but felt very much like an accessory and the mechanics of the act (with him very much all over her given their positions) made me more of an irritation than part of a threesome. At no point did either he or my partner attempt to engage me in any way. The two became very intense and had sex in many positions - nothing I hadn't done before but quite a show nonetheless. They seemed to go at it for quite a while (understatement) with me not finding any meaningful way to re-engage. Finally he picked her up off the bed we were on and moved her to an adjacent bed (two queens in the hotel room) and fucked her on the edge of the bed. He finally came (she had been coming continuously as she typically does). After that they lay beside each other and I being soooo turned on finally decided it was my turn. Imagine my surprise when my partner closes her eyes and falls to sleep. I caressed her as did he but at the moment it was clear to me that the evening was over for her at which point the meaning of the prior events changed dramatically for me. At the moment it was clear they were both "finished" I felt humiliated realising how the threesome was really a twosome in which I had played only a minor role. This was not what we had discussed and certainly not how we had played out the fantasy oursleves. Nonetheless, I avoided drama, bit my tongue and our guest politely bid us farewell leaving us his business card (we have of course not contacted him which we had agreed would be the case regardless). In looking back on it, I'd have to say I have two very different feelings. On the one hand the evening began as one of the most erotic of my life. However, I also felt like the my partner and guest betrayed my trust. If I invited someone over for dinner I would not expect to see them hoard all of the food which I was so eager to share! Initially I also felt my ego bruised, that she had chosen him and ignored me. My partner and I have discussed this at some length since. She herself is surprised this is how things worked out and partly believes alcohol impaired her judgement and also comments that her recollection of some of the events is not all that it should be. Knowing that our nervousness (or excitedness?) caused us both to drink more than we are accustomed to (lesson one!) I have no doubt that what she is saying is true. So the bottom line is she is not much able to help me as the evening remains a bit of a blurr to her. Nonetheless she has admitted it was a thrill and any hesitation she might have had towards the lifestyle has gone and she is already talking about trying it again. It's not quite been a week since this happened and to be honest my feelings are still changing so I intend to sit tight and see where we end up. Perhaps we will try this again, perhaps not. However, in the meantime I do have a few questions which I would like to put to some of you more experienced players. So finally (to the point of my post!) here goes: 1. First and foremost, has any of you found yourself in a similar situation and if yes, how did you deal with it during and after the encounter? 2. Based in this initial experience of MFM, my sense of the dynamics of the MFM threesome is that there is a very strong bond between the male when penetrating the female that may make the second (non-penetrating) male somewhat irrelevant at that point in time. Is this dependent on the psychology of the particular female and male having intercourse or is this situational? Or is this just my inexperience? I should note that my partner is far more vaginally focussed than any girl I ever dated. Clitoral stimulation etc. is all secondary to her and we have had plenty of time to explore each other from tip to toe as it were. 3. I realise that many men watch during MFMs, some participate and some take turns. I definitely could have removed the fellow from her at any point but given they were both having such a great time and I expected I would be next I had no reason to "muscle in". Was this a mistake? She was certainly well beyond receiving subtle signals! 4. Do you guys do anything to prep the "guest" to ensure that things like this do not happen? I am typically quite a dominant male and this fellow was smaller and relatively unassuming. Thus my partner likely assumed I would take control of the situation. However, it seems to me that all three people need to be of the same mindset to make this a fair exchange and no single individual can make it happen. OK, this has been a very long post and I thank any of you that have read this far! Any advice, tips or pointers would be appreciated. The main lesson we have learned is to keep the alcohol intake down. However, I suspect that we have a little more talking to do before we try anything like this again.

I think most people did not go down this road so I will do my best. "HWP" is generally important to those who are HWP. People who work out, tend to be attracted to others who do the same (IMO). I will be honest and admit to being one of those people, HOWEVER... I way prefer a kind, overweight soul, to an attractive person who thinks they are "all that". Conceit does not appeal to me (or my partner) in any way, shape or form. I would agree that a smile always attracts me first, but I do look to see if I am attracted to the person second.

we had a man join us this weekend. He was openly bisexual and asked if he could join us after chatting at the nude pool all afternoon. He wanted to please both of us so he went down on me while I rode my husbands cock. His oral skills were amazing and had me cumming repeatedly. In return he wanted my husband to himself for a bit. Watching him suck my husbands cock was one of the hottest things I have seen. He wanted more so I watched my husband fuck him. I masturbated hard and had an incredible orgasm with my husband as he pulled out and ejaculated all over him. His cock was perfect so I asked him to finish i me. I offered up my pussy to him. It only took a few strokes and his huge cock emptied inside me. I guess we are hedonists - we don’t get hung up on labels and are all about the pleasure. Fortunately we have friends that are into the same with no judgement or weirdness.

Each of us were serial monogamists for our entire lives. When we met we were for 40 years "monogamists" in the way the term is used here. If for some reason we stopped the LS portion of our lives I would, and I believe she would, have no problems returning to that way of living. So, in the way you meant it our default is monogamist. Now I would like to address the word monogamist itself, its actual meaning , and how most define marriage. 1. Mono gameo means I marry one or I am married to one. 2. Many define marriage as mutually exclusive sex primarily, with attached items like finances and raising children. For many though the sex issue is the defining issue. 1a. As for the two of us, we still consider ourselves monogamist. We each have exactly one spouse. 2a. Exclusive sex had a place for a while in our earlier years, while raising children and doing all the things that people do in their 30-40 year vanilla lives. Doing those things and maintaining the "US" in the world was a full time job. Other people would have been an overload if allowed to close. Therefore the Vanilla/PTA/Church framework was firmly the limit. As we matured the importance we attached to exclusive sex diminished and our free time for closer relationships increased. What defines marriage for us is Trust, Loyalty, Openness, Transparency and a clear assurance that we each have the others back. Enjoying some pleasure with others has no bearing on marriage as we live it. We seek out couples who have a similar perspective. So far they have not been in short supply. Our main friends now are companions in many ways . Sex is just one of the things in the mix.

Bumping this thread, Jorik. It's been a good discussion. Oklahoma, in the meantime, has legalized Medical Marijuana, but not recreational use. In order to get a license, one must visit a doctor who will make a recommendation to OMMA that the patient be issued a license. Fee is $150.00. No doctor's prescription is required, nor any medical use specified. Printed on the back of one's license are the amounts of pot the patient can possess: 1. Possess up to three (3) ounces of marijuana on their person. 2. Possess six (6) marijuana plants. 3. Possess six (6) seedling plants. 4. Possess one (1) ounce of concentrated marijuana. 5. Possess seventy-two (72) ounces of edible marijuana, AND 6. Possess up to eight (8) ounces of marijuana in their residence. I don't remember how much tax money the state has collected. It's substantial. Before the law was passed, Oklahoma was LAST in teacher pay in our seven-state area (contiguous borders, Texas, New Mexico, Colorado, Kansas, Missouri and Arkansas.) Now we're about to be first. Teachers who left the state because of low pay are returning. Money is being directed to repairing our infrastructure. Medical Marijuana "Dispensaries" have sprung up all over the state (There is no county option.) All are faring well and more licenses are pending. Marijuana is a major ingredient in a lot of Native American medicine people's preparations, used before the invasion (and, in some cases, still). The Cheyenne say that Mother Earth and Father Sky have provided cures for all illnesses. We only need to find them.

I am guessing you posed the question to women. I have been having oral sex with guys all my sexual life. I admit the first times I gagged, choked and vomited. With practice all that went away and it became fun and yes I didn’t mind swallowing. It wasn’t until years later, after college that I ever saw a vagina other than mine, that close up. After the first time doing oral to a girlfriend, something I can’t believe I did, I couldn’t wait to do it again. I never lost the enjoyment of guys and now still look forward to being with other girlfriends. My then found sexuality opened up more enjoyment knowing I don’t need to choose.

I am the F in our relationship but I can tell you that’s a big NO for us. We swing because we love sex - and each other - period. Although we are close with member of our group and those that we know from the beach and club, we don’t forge relationships that strain our marriage. We swing to take our sex lives to a different level then we could on our own. There have been plenty of guys that have come along that I could have peruses and gone down that confusing road. The ladies love my husband because he is cute, funny, smart and loves to please - the whole package - but he doesn’t let things go there. We know we have something special and don’t let our egos ruin it.

We figured out a while ago that we don't find this objectionable. We have not acted on it, but it's on the table, as long as it's a couple hundred degrees of separation away from our vanilla life. We've changed our life around so we can spend more time on a city we both enjoy more than where we work and if it comes up, it's not a problem. With that said, no sleepovers, no repeat dates, and no intercourse without talking it over first.

When you say happened about a man that really turned her on in a vanilla situation and make love, that sounds more along the lines of boyfriend/relationship. Some folks are into that type of situation and some are not. My wife and I enjoy fucking other people, we only make love to each other. That being said, obviously it’s a lot of fun when you find a play partner very attractive.

As a mother of 3, I do not see how that last sentence is possible. Mine did not stay permanently stretched.

And I think it's safe to say that you have demonstrated that fact.

I just posted about the first time I watched. I was terrified and I also could turn away. I enjoyed as an out of body experience. I held my breath as she was giving a blow job and watched and listened to every movement and sound she made during sex. I wanted to hold her yet I wanted to watch. I couldn't turn away. I had sex with 2 other women that night and the one thing I can remember most was the first time I saw my wife suck a cock.

We were with our neighbor. There was a ton of sexual tension between my wife and him. We ended up drinking and flirting. He and I began rubbing her tits nd making out. She undressed for us and and started sucking our cocks. She sucked his cock while I fucked her from behind - his dick was perfect and a lot bigger than mine. I could tell she was totally into him so I invited him to switch with me. I got on my back nd had her straddle my face - i figured it would drive her wild to have be eating her while he pounded her with his big cock. She came very fast and I shot a load in her mouth. when she was ready he put his cock in her again. While he was fucking i just instinctively rubbed his shaft with my tongue. As he pulled out of her i took the head of his cock in my mouth. He went back and forth between my mouth and her pussy until he finally went balls deep in her and ejaculated. I sucked his balls and could feel his thick cock pulsing as he put his load in her. It was a first for all of us. My wife was so turned on by the whole experience. We laid around afterwards and she continued to kiss us and play with our cocks. I held his cock as she sucked him off - he came again. My wife masturbated watching him sucking my cock. We sat back nd jerked off together until we both shot another load. She continues to totally get off seeing me with another guy.

How interesting? But I could see how it could be. When you're watching another couple and being attended to as well, when the other guy is obviously ejaculating, it could put you over the edge too.

A little history. We started playing with our best male friend in 1986. In fact he and his wife were the ones that seduced us into playing. That was a time before HIV so we did not worry about going bareback. I remember the first time when we were seduced. We were all nudists and got together on a weekly basis and we had gotten to the point that there was a lot of flirting between all of us. Our male friend and my wife were on the living room floor and he was massaging her. I was on the floor across the room massaging her. I looked over and saw that my wife and my best friend were having intercourse. Even though my wife and I had never discussed it, it just seemed right to me. I pointed out to his wife what was going on across the room and she gave me a little smile. After seeing that I started being more sexual in my massaging and in a few minutes we started having intercourse too. After a few minutes I realized that I knew her husband had had a vasectomy and my wife had had her tubes tied, but I didn't know about her so I asked. She mentioned she had had her tubes tied too, so we continued and we continued until I came inside her. After that my friend who worked nights and my wife who wasn't working got together many times during the day, which I really found exciting. Unfortunately his wife, although a good friend, was not that interested in me but was playing with others. My wife playing with our male friend turned into the two of us playing with her. As time went on, sloppy seconds became very common and even an occasional DVP. At that time he had no trouble cumming and it was always inside her. He and his wife got divorced and each got remarried and everyone knew we were playing with him. My wife and I continued playing with him and we all had a lot of fun. His new wife died of a heart attack in her early 50s and we became even closer to him. We all even agreed to a poly relationship which worked very well. It was not exclusive. One of the problems he had was masturbating so much that he couldn't cum through intercourse, which was a disappointment. A couple of years ago he got in touch with woman he had known years ago. Her husband was fine with them playing, and even though his new playmate said it was fine for my wife to play with him, we stopped because there seemed to be the potential for too much drama. We are still friends with him, but don't feel comfortable playing with him.

The easy way to do it is to just do it without thinking about it. How do you think women swallow cum, it is not as gross as you think.

Agreed. TBH my wife is not big on giving me head. When she does it is like swallowing a stick and simply going up and down it. When she first tried another male (friend) I could see passion and how she loved it doing other techniques and with him swallowing. At first when guys would go down on her and me in the room, same bed etc... she was basically freeze and then pang she opened up, often forcing their head down to her pussy and then pull íng them up for the fucking. The most erotic part is seeing the male´s cock enter her and her face, reaction etc... when they are about to cum it is amazing.

Welcome... My first question to you is probably a hard one... why do you feel uncomfortable with your husband being with other women? You said it isn't because you are afraid he would leave you, or love someone else, but you didn't say what the issue is. I think if you can understand that, it might help you.