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I think the issue that grates with me is that some guy posts this fictional story as something that happened illicitly or was even non-consensual. The underlying "sincere thought" is that this is something he struggles to admit turns him on and has to frame as a mess for which he bears no responsibility. Almost inevitably, the controversy is some variation on his wife getting pile-driven and/or impregnated by some black guys, even if he has to claim his wife was raped to get where he's going in his story and put us all on about how distraught he is that this terrible thing happened - despite clearly masturbating to it. We see this over and over again, to the point that when the story ends with "Does anybody have any similar stories?", it's almost like somebody's lit the Bat Signal that our time is being wasted. Maybe we can call it the Black Signal. If you want to watch your wife get roughly air-tighted by three black dudes who ran out of condoms before they got to her while they insult your penis or whatever, that's completely cool. It's a genre of porn for a reason. I'm not kink-shaming. I'm shame-shaming. People should really just take ownership of what they're into instead of crab-walking around it by pretending they're just passive observers as their wildest fantasies tragically unfold around them.

There are so many people who look into this board for information or advice and then you have some asshole who wants to play with the very people who sincerely want to share their experiences and help others. Troll is too kind a description.

Pretty clear this person is just a troll.

Troll or not events have happened that are similar in the history of pre swing and post swing experiences. It can still be used as a learning/teaching moment for the less experienced and curious. The thoughts and advice given is sincere......even if the story is out of penthouse letter fiction.

I was listening to Justin Lehmiller or was it Dr. Chris Donaghue yesterday. They said that Sex is not listed as addiction in the DSM. So, by my reasoning, if you can't bill it to insurance - it doesn't exist.

For us, if my husband (or anyone in our family) wanted to cut back or even stop having sex altogether that would be OK, but it would also be OK for the rest of us to adjust and continue.

I was wondering when the black guy with the huge dong would be joining the story. I think it would have played out better had you made him the contractor, just my opinion. Hopefully you and your wife fulfill all of your hopes and dreams. Maybe she gets her gang bang at next year’s block party. Maybe all the neighbors piss in her face while the DJ (sorry, black DJ with 11” penis) takes virgin ass. Of course you’ll be out getting more ice and miss it all, but she’ll love it!

Welcome BriBriMaddy. This appears to be your first post and while it wasn't that long ago seeing it pop up brought back some memories. Thanks for the reinforcement. We have definitely figured out what we are looking for now. She has officially decided she likes the ladies and I have officially decided that I like that she likes the ladies. We are looking for couples to meet up with and get to know before playing. Unfortunately life got in the way with getting our toys moved from DC to Florida (RV and sailboat) but we are starting to get back into it. Welcome to the site if you are new and if not welcome to the club of former lurkers.

One of things that we had the hardest time convincing ourselves to go through with in swinging? Registering on this site. It was back when we were just thinking about it, and the specific bit of info we were looking for couldn't be found by just lurking around, so if I was going to get an answer to the question, I was going to have to ask it myself. I finally got up the nerve to do so, registered, posted a thread, got the answer, which led to something else which led to something else and then here we are today For many their first real tangible step in swinging is registering online on a site, and the first steps are always the hardest to take! We would love to have our lurker vs poster ratio improve, but the best way I know of for doing that is for those of us that do post is to just keep doing what we're doing, the more the better, to show what a great community this is and how the more involved you are in it, the more you get from it.

WE lurked for quite a while while making up our minds. This sight and it many generous contributors acted as LS 101 through Graduation. During that time the only thing we did was read and perhaps ask a question for clarification. Listening in on the conversations here was one of the best moves that we made on the journey. Mouths shut ears open can be very profitable. The ability that this forum provides to do just that is of great value. Once we thought that there was sufficient experience on our part we started to contribute.

For me nothing is better then my husband and another man taking care of me.

I've done that one, but I was watching from underneath while I licked her pussy.