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Age is just a number. I am 77 and my wife is 68 and we have played with two couples, on separate occasions, in the last month. One couple was in their late 60s and the other their early 60s. We have both been told that we look and act at least ten years younger than our ages. We have been approached by couples very much younger than ourselves. Maybe we are less ageist in Europe. In December I will be celebrating 50 years in the lifestyle. My first wife and I started, unplanned and almost by accident, in December 1969. We enjoyed it and 50 years later I am still enjoying it. So, there is hope for the rest of you!

I'll have to disagree with the statement that swingers have a different idea of what cheating is and don't often care. I know for us at least, if one is doing something the other other doesn't know about or hasn't already agreed to, we would consider it cheating.

It's not so much about quantity of a single type of love as it is about a wider spectrum of type of love.

@SjBlueBirds Come back!!! Or, maybe we should go back there as one of us is from a metro great lakes City and the other rural.

And the other half is dubious.

From what I hear: 1. It is the ultimate turn on for a lot of men to watch their women get satisfied. 2. The ultimate porn show, watching your woman in the act! At least that's in a nutshell what I have heard from couples I've joined.

I think you'll get a different answer wherever you look. I consider my wife a hot wife. She can pick a guy to fuck but I get to watch/join in. Solo play is not in our cards right now. I only fuck her

Unfortunately, many in the LS confuse geeks with nerds. We refer them to this video for explanation...

I guess I'm a 'former' geek. I was an IT professional, I've got seven bookcases in my place. At a recent museum exhibit I taught tweeters and teenagers how we used to use a slide rule. (Still have mine from Engineering school back in 19(mumble the rest.) I'm retired now, but I teach technology classes to disadvantaged adults. Theres a few of us here . . .

It does sound small, which could be good for a group takeover kind of situation where everybody already knows everybody. For that scenario, based on the on-site amenities, unless the view is just fantastic or something, I'm not sure people would be willing to pay a whole lot for that just to get a pool since someone in the group probably already has one. What's available for day tripping? If there are some good attractions nearby, that would help. The other scenario would be couples that aren't part of a group. With just four or five other couples there, all complete strangers with no vetting whatsoever, we wouldn't consider our odds very good at all on finding someone compatible. Just not enough to choose from. That goes back to the amenities too. If you don't find much in common with the others to the point of you really don't even want to be around them, then what? A large enough place you can find your own space just to relax together, but if your choices are limited to being in your room by yourself or being out by the pool with people you don't want to be around, then that doesn't sound like much fun. Not trying to be a downer, I think it has some amount of potential, but if the key marketing thing is it's for swingers, then you are going to have to figure out what to offer them that they can't already get at home or a friend's house, and that means a fairly large group of like-minded people. You've got to think too that once you market it for swingers, then you are pretty much eliminating getting other vanilla bookings for when you don't have any swingers there.

We swing and do MFMs (Where you put the second M matters - MFM means the guys just have sex with the wife, MMF means the guys are bi.) I'm not bi, and I love watching my wife flirt and seduce a man, then take him to bed. It's like porn. If I could describe a 'typical' night with a new man, it would go this way: We meet him at a bar to size him up. The wife gives me a code word that means it's on, I make the invitation for him to come over to our house. We hang out, another drink, then find our way to the bedroom. I watch as they get into it. Sometimes I'll let her play with me as he's performing oral on her, but not always. I continue to watch as they screw. Then when he starts slowing down, after he's come, I take over and she and I go at it. Often, the other guy gets so aroused watching us play that he's ready to go again when I slow down. We have a great time with this, and I certainly get my 'piece of pie.'

That reminds me of a time my parents may have realized we were swinging. We were building a new house and my parents met us at the ten acres to see it. While we were there, the contractor and his wife pulled up. And, as a matter of fact, the contractor and his wife were play partners of ours. We were talking about our house and the contractor suggested doing the vaulted ceiling in the living room a certain way that he was doing on another house he was building. We decided to go look. The contractor suggested that my wife ride with him and his wife with me so we wouldn't get lost if separated. Yea, right! Ha! Now I don't know what the contractor and my wife were doing on the ride but his wife was giving a great blow job. When we got to the other house, I could tell my parents were very suspicious of why we traded wives for the ride over.

That doesn't bother me, but that is probably because my lady has told me in detail what she likes about certain things, mostly trivial things like this is. What happens then is, if they come up, I can just relax and watch her get all worked up. We are dealing here with perfectly valid but irrational emotional responses. 30 minutes later there can be hard sex going on and it isn't an issue but holding hands or cuddling on someones lap is? I know it is REAL. I have both felt that way and triggered such responses myself so I understand. Once I took and after play shower with a lady. That wasn't an issue with my wife, BUT I washed her hair for her. THAT was an issue. Now we just treat these things as an occasion to laugh at ourselves later.

This is extremely gratifying, most of the respondents feel much like I do. The turn on, thrill, pleasure has several facets, but the most prominent reason we want to watch is because of our deep caring for our wives. That seems to me one of the best damn reasons for non-monogamy. I have almost gotten used to the polite, supportive and intelligent conversations on this site, versus some of the ugly stuff you see elsewhere, but when so many of the husbands here abandon the possessive, jealous, grasping, demanding behavior that we often see in the vanilla world (maybe all over?) in favor of a different strategy. Our wives/SOs get to explore and expand their pleasure activities with not only the approval, but the encouragement of the one they go home with. Their most important guy. My wife sometimes complains a bit about how much work is required to "break in" a new partner--"No, don't pinch and twirl my nipples like you're tuning in the BBC, gentle please." "I am multi-O, very quick to achieve one. Don't be a pussy." "Yeah, oral is ok once in a while, but what I really want is to be filled up...and then filled up." You get the picture. Thanks to all so far who have supported the position posited above--we want the best for our wives.

Ok, I'll chime in...I mostly like my tongue lashing with manual stimulation. An eager mouth suckling my clit and a pair of fingers inside stroking my g-spot does it every time. Of course there's also the slow tease of hot breath and a light tongue tickling my labia, my inner thighs, my clit. A full mouth covering my mound leads to the want of a hard cock and explosive orgasms.

We had a fun time with a couple we met at a house party. The next day, we read their profile and discovered that he was bi - not a big deal. He and I didn't interact even though all four of us were busy on the same bed. I don't understand the bi-male phobia - any one "no" is as good as any other and if it's not respected THEN it's time to stop the play.