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A friend knows that we swing and she asked me if this ever happens. I don't know of anyone personally, but curious to hear if others do. If you know two people who met because they swing, left their spouses and ended up together, did it last? I would be curious to know.

Laura and I hosted "Meet-Ups" in Tulsa. People who got into town on Friday (twelve of us that time) went to dinner at a local Tex Mex place. We filed in and sat at what must have seemed to be random. The waitress wanted how to how she should arrange the tickets. I told her my wife was the lady in purple at the end of the table. The lady next to me said, "My husband is sitting next to her. Put mine and his together." She finally got it right by asking married couples to raise their hands. Later she leaned over and whispered into my ear, "Is this a swingers club?" "Who wants to know?" I asked. "A swinger," she whispered. She and her husband joined us at our vanilla party on Saturday night after she got off work.

In a strictly legal sense yes "alimony" refers to post-marital financial support between formerly married people. But for decades now, since the landmark 1976 Marvin v. Marvin "palimony" case, when people cohabit for a substantial period of time, there can be legally mandated post-relationship financial support. I would expect in the case of a polyamorous cohabiting family that dissolves, if one member had dedicated himself or herself to a disproportionate amount of housekeeping and/or childcare instead of working outside the home for money, they would be due at least a period of financial support from the other members of the family whose professional success was supported and enhanced by the person who had foregone outside work. While I suspect that polyamorous families tend to come together organically and that roles within the family change with the passage of time, I think it would be prudent for folks who contemplate expanding a dyadic family into something larger to negotiate an agreement about how they would deal with a potential ending of the new relationship and then have a lawyer memorialize that agreement in legally sound language. And then update it periodically as circumstances change. Said the man who hasn't updated his estate plans in more than a dozen years...

Does it happen: yes, but not when a couple is in a good committed relationship and has great communication. It usually happens when a couple is already in trouble and they are trying to swing to 'save' or 'spice up' a failing relationship. In this case, they are usually already looking for their next partner and once the NRE kicks in, they are out. Swinging magnifies a relationship. If the relationship is strong, it just makes it better. If it is weak, it usually just makes the weakness and flaws more apparent. Stable, loving, communicating, trusting swingers rarely have this happen (from our experience).

Thank you for this legal perspective. Im sure this will be helpful to everyone thinking of starting a polycule family or poly relationships in general :-)

They are a bunch of dick pics, meant to get attention and a laugh. It doesn’t sound like there are any identifiable characteristics in the photos. Hopefully he didn’t burn himself on hot eggs and sausage. I don’t know the dick owners intention in swinging but there is plenty of information here on posting pictures. It is my opinion if this thread makes newbies or everyday swingers nervous they need to review their own pictures and what they are doing.

A married couple I know and have played with met through the lifestyle while married to others. I don't know if they divorced their partners so they could be together, but they have been together for many years.

Even if it did/does happen, it's not uncommon in vanilla life either. Probably happens less with swingers because if they have crazy desires for someone they can act on it and get it out of their system rather than breaking up or cheating.

Many years ago I had a friend in college, a very good friend, who always had money. I had taken jobs at minimum wage and some waitressing. I still had to ask my parents for money. My friend had enough that she would buy the pizza and sometimes beer. I found out she worked at a gentleman’s club. She told me it was easy money and could make a thousand on a good night. No real physical contact just dances. When I asked if she thought I could try it she admitted that guys touched and she would jerk guys off in the VIP room. Then she said there is even more money if you went to the motel in the back. She said not every girl does that. I finally gave in and tried it. The men were mostly sleeze bags. You would dance and try to get lap dances and then VIP room guys. Guys grab you and you would grind on them. Even the nice ones were nasty. I never went back.

The barter system...trade. I'll trade you some of mine for some of yours.

Well again....it reminds me of a line from Goldie Hawn in a movie.....”we’re not prostitutes....we’re housewives...we give it away!” Well, not really. Every one has a line they will not cross. And like many lines it isn’t always straight. I am one that believes that with some guidelines and licensing if you want to do this for fun or money you should be allowed to make that choice. The claim is it is the oldest profession in the world....I expect it is. In the US we have peculiar double standards....especially when it comes to sex.

I wouldn't sell it, but I'd certainly take an IOU!

Depends on the size of the guys. If they aren't too big, I love the closeness and intimacy of a dp or dvp. If one or both have bigger cocks I prefer having one guy giving me oral while the other penetrates.

This has been my experience with really large guys as well. That said I prefer average size guys, not guys whose penis isn't much bigger than.... it's hard to describe too big or too small.... but I know it when I see it.