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What the fuck is wrong with American culture? We can watch men, women, and children butchered in various vile manners, watch seemingly endless parades of programs about serial killers, vampires, and other creatures. But the slightest shot of a nude breast or bum is offensive? To who? Is our society so repressed that we act more like the Inquisition, than the freedom-loving people we are supposed to be? The nude body is taboo , but a dismembered one isn't? WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!! Ok..... rant over.

You wanna call me a bigot for stating scientific fact, have at it. However, I identify as your ruler and savior. You will address me as “The Great One for which you worship”. Because I identify as that, if you do not refer to me in that manner you are a racist and a bigot. Good day to you! Regards, Your ruler and savior

I was with a man for the first time since I was married, not planned, it just happened on a vacation. It happened a few years ago and I still think of that first time. I love my husband and trust him to love me. I did feel a little jealous that he was with someone new. Didn’t want to know all the details of his night and thought he might feel the same. Our second day with the couple was more trying and almost gave up on the the thought of ever doing it again. Alone with my husband I explained my feelings. I even used the word Love in our friend made love to me. I never said we fucked. I said we made love. My husband was understanding after I told him that the second day I felt like I was fucked by a stranger. The man I was with was both a lover and a stranger. The second day I was a sex object, in front of my husband. The first night I was loved and reacted as a woman making love. My husband enjoyed the fact that I enjoyed. Since that first day we have played a few times mostly in separate rooms and a few times in the same room. I have seen him enjoy and he has watched me play too. He certainly knows when I orgasm and has watched me have some intense ones.

This something I never told my husband and reading the post brought back a memory. The first time we did a swap I had an orgasm I only had a few times before. I don’t know if it was the newness or the excitement or what he was doing. I told my lover that night that it was one of the best orgasms I had in some time. I must have had four orgasms and very intense ones. I felt foolish telling him that or even admitting that it was great. When my husband asked me how that night was I told him it was plenty of fun and he knows I had a great time. I never told him exactly what I said during sex. We don’t swing that often. There is a certain excitement when we do play.

In multiple states one can now list their gender as X. Preferred pronoun they or their. It can be very confusing. Trans doesn’t necessarily mean transitioning specifically to another gender. I try to be respectful do go with the pronoun requested. If someone identifies as a woman but still has a penis, so be it. It doesn’t affect me. However I am baffled by the person not being upfront before going back to the hotel. It can be dangerous, is disrespectful and deceitful as already stated. Calling people bigots for different opinions on the issue isn’t productive.

Once he pulls his dick out any thought of MFF went out the window. He can put on makeup, have a great hairdo, wear stockings and heels, have a nice set of fake tits and tell you 1000 times that he’s a she...... He’s not ??*♂️

We are both bisexual so this is very much our thing. We play with a few other bi couples and singles so and in many cases prefer them. My personal favorite involves a very close friend that we have played with for a few years. My best orgasms with him occur when I am on top, reverse and my husband is attending to my pussy while his cock is in me. His penis is porn star material so we both enjoy it. My husband will guide him inside me and occasionally take him out and give him oral. I love watching and love the way his mouth feels on me while i’m taking one that’s a bit bigger than usual for me. After I’m done we both take care of my husband - they are amazing encounters.

Many years ago I had a friend in college, a very good friend, who always had money. I had taken jobs at minimum wage and some waitressing. I still had to ask my parents for money. My friend had enough that she would buy the pizza and sometimes beer. I found out she worked at a gentleman’s club. She told me it was easy money and could make a thousand on a good night. No real physical contact just dances. When I asked if she thought I could try it she admitted that guys touched and she would jerk guys off in the VIP room. Then she said there is even more money if you went to the motel in the back. She said not every girl does that. I finally gave in and tried it. The men were mostly sleeze bags. You would dance and try to get lap dances and then VIP room guys. Guys grab you and you would grind on them. Even the nice ones were nasty. I never went back.

Napoleon, thank you for your reply, I do appreciate all replies, views and perspectives on this issue. The good thing with my relationship with my wife is we are very big on communication with each other and we are both brutally honest with how we feel about things. We do not hold back and we never "take one for the team" as they say. I would rather my wife, and she feels exactally the same about this, tell the absolute truth about how she feels about something regardless of the issues and I want her to be the same with me. I would much rather feel, "well I did not like that answer but at least you did not lie to me". Neither one of has ever expected the other to do anything they were not comfortable with. One of the worst things that could happen we both feel we need to avoid at all cost is learning from the other one after something happens, "I really did not want to do that but I did it because I wanted you to be happy". That would be incredibly upsetting for either of us to learn after the fact. I do appreciate everyone taking the time to share their thoughts and experiences on this topic and would encourage other to please continue sharing theirs as well. Thank you.

IOHO there are two 'schools' to swinging: quality and quantity (for lack of a better term). Swingers either like the newness of other couples (quantity) or to develop a connection or friendship (quality). We belong to the friends group: we want to find others that we connect with and can have a friendly relationship with. What can be better than having a best friend that you can talk about ANYTHING with (like sex)...while you're naked...and touching their partner? Bottom line: different strokes for different folks. One way is no better or worse than the other, just different.

I came into this thread expecting a discussion about delicious cake. This is especially of interest to me because I’m on Keto and can’t have cake. I’m disappointed.

No but the Uhura cheerleader dress must stay on.

I'm with Gold. It seems that the "powers" that be are spending a lot of energy trying to divide our societies. White/Black, Gay/straight, immigrants/americans, republican/democrat, rich/poor, pro-life/pro-choice etc etc. There is only one way I can think of to co-exist with other humans and that's to be one great melting pot with lots of different views backgrounds and traditions that are respected even if not enjoyed. Then we can look for common ground as a society. Participating in a "subgroup" is fine, but must be part of a great whole. Sorry for the hijack, but it all starts with each and every one of us.

Couldn't have said it better myself. I am pretty certain my views on sexuality fall well outside of the mainstream , but being a swinger is not really an identity to me in the same way as it is to LGBT-Q folks. But, that's an assumption, and just like people have a lot of uninformed assumptions about swingers, as pretty much your standard issue middle-aged straight white male, there's probably a fair amount of uninformed assumptions that went into that previous statement too.

We hate labels/pigeon holes/boxes ... by being swingers we are releasing natural sexual urges that have been stifled by years of religious rules ,

You raise an interesting point. The 'Q' can stand for either 'Queer' or 'Questioning.' Although I don't consider myself sexually queer, I'm definitely questioning traditional monogamy. However, I wouldn't say that I'm LGBT-Q, as the moniker seems oriented towards people with non-traditional gender roles. I am (more or less) heterosexual, so I don't think I fit into that camp. And, of course, I don't think it really matters what you call yourself as long as you're respectful of other people and having fun. So . . .

It does for my wife. We fantasize about sucking cock together, and me eating her pussy and ass while I get deeply ass fucked.

I agree with the Nomads, Tammi. Truthfully explain what happened to your husband. If the lady approaches you again, simply say,"My husband and I don't care to be acquainted with you." Then keep on ignoring the bitch. Whether she's a boor or "on something" are both valid reasons.

I’m a communicate everything kind of guy anyway so I would have told him everything as soon as we got back or else called her out on what she said while in the play area. Sounds like a petty woman.

From a health care worker.... Could not agree more. The human body is beautiful and natural. Violence against it is neither.

Violence has been proven to sell pretty well, and has a better lobbying crowd than nudity does. Also there is the aspect that violence can be attributed to "evil" and as such can be shown and said "see this is evil". Meanwhile you are looking for nudity to be put in a good light, which is a tough cookie since it's attached to sex, which is typically cast in a bad light.

I've played the part of guider as well -- too too too HOT!!! Sorry -- I just had a vision

I like seeing the MFM threesomes in magazines. The pose that really gets me hard is where the female is on top facing the opposite direction with a cock in her mouth. We have not done that. But maybe someday...