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Hello all We are a m/f couple and never done anything at all and my wife said she wants to take it very slowly and one step at a time which I understand and she said she would be open to trying a phone swinger chat fantasy with another couple, so to dip her toes in the water first. I am fine with that. However the issue is trying to find a m/f or f who we can do that with, we have looked and looked and can not find anyone. Can anyone help at all?

Some men may have experience with swinging as a single but are not up to it as part of a couple themselves. One said “my girlfriend’s not going to do that.” I was very clear I wasn’t looking for a boyfriend but FWB partner. There are those looking for a date to get them into the party or club and won’t really take the time to know you. I know a couple that did meet swinging as singles at a party. So it can happen. I made the initial contact with my main FWB 2 years ago. We have a wonderful friendship and have both been clear from the beginning what we wanted. There have been times we are monogamous and that has to do with other things in our lives which we discuss clearly. I initiated contact with another man looking for MFM with a man he knew (flows better to me). So now I play with them single or together. I like the wording GoldCo suggests.

Why do people post just to see their post numbers to go up. People are posting nonsense and ruining this group.

How bigger are you talking? Like monster 10 plus or like 8. I'm around 8 and I don't have any problems getting hard again for another round especially if the excitement is there and my wife really wants more. I have heard that some guys with those monster cocks can have some perfusion issues.

I used to have a Desire hat that I wore all of the time because most people had no idea what it meant...until that one fateful boat trip I wouldn't worry much about pictures as most won't get it and even if they did, they wouldn't make the connection to what you were saying. Instead I would say things in your profile describing what you want without just saying it. Committed relationship but someone who isn't too possessive or jealous. Open minded, willing to try new things and experiences, etc. Maybe look for someone at a swingers club. Just be up front from the start...like first or second meeting that you are a swinger and want someone who can accept that (and even after they say it's okay, keep looking for warning signs since lots of guys will agree to the idea but can't deal with the reality). Good luck.

Words mean things. Often in a "gang"bang you get exactly that, gang behavior on the part of the men. Human beings recognize relative safety in numbers and also non-accountability in a group activity, that's how riots happen along with other forms of aberrant behavior. What the OP described is illustrative of the point. Mrs Doc has enjoyed multiple partners (3,4,5)on occasion but none of the men were random guys picked off a website. They were respectful and attentive to her not to their dicks and it was fun to watch and participate unlike the scene described above.

We went to a party that turned into a gang bang. Really felt similarly to you. We didn’t know the hosts well. Far too many single men showed up. The house looked like it was between owners/tenants with minimal furnishings. The guys were mostly over machismo, treated the women, at best smugly, at worst with contempt like fuckwhore-toys. We looked in on the action a couple of times thinking it would be hot but girls were handled too roughly, spanked, fucked really hard and aggressively with guys lined up, cheering shouting, calling names. It really disgusted us. We had hoped to sneak into a quiet corner and entertain ourselves but when we saw this, we thanked the host and left. If your gut is telling you that something isn’t right, listen to it.