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I think it’s awesome that you are that close with your children, not everybody can say that. However, your son is 30 and I’d assume your daughter is also an adult, why do you have to tell them where you’re going? Phone off, does your daughter track your location when you go out? If so, that’s very odd. How about “we’re going away for the night, see you guys tomorrow”. Where are you going? What are you doing? “We’re going out for the night to do mom and dad stuff, see you tomorrow.”

If people aren't being honest, they are not swinging, they are cheating.

This seems decisively answered, for the love of god even Padoc and Napoleon agree.

It’s definitely deceitful. Even if they had only discussed it and planned it without talking to you first would have been unfair. That’s a big lack of communication, no opportunity to discuss this as a couple. Bonus that you have had some fun of your own. Is Lesley having sex with you because she wants to or only to please her husband? I would suggest a break and some counseling before opening your marriage again. Honestly it doesn’t sound good, but if you value the relationship it will be worth the effort. Even if it doesn’t work “kicking to the curve” can be more harmful than sitting down and having an adult conversation.

I don’t think it had anything to do with the make-up of the people involved. They could be the greatest, most openly sexual people on earth, however, there will be others in the family who are not. IF it ends badly those great people have something to hang over your head. Just like swinging with co-workers. Great for years, ends abruptly, person ends up becoming your boss, don’t let the door hit you in the ass. The average person may say don’t swing because it will end badly, and it may, but I’m not shitting where I eat. I can walk away from a bad swinging encounter and never see those people again.

What a cool idea OP!! Its kinda like bungee jumping where, with a slight miscalculation, you could go from an amazing thrill to a complete and utter disaster in a split second. I'd recommend strongly against both!

I got into swinging because I wanted to experience MFM. I do have FMF fantasies, but have yet to meet the right couple. MMI is always fun too, Me, Myself, and I.

I've only did MFF(myself and two friends with benefits or her and one of her friends). It was fun but after experiencing a few threesomes I realize I'm not a big fan of it. My first ever threesome was my idea. The next 5 threesomes I had were my friends with benefits idea.

Kids, even young ones, always find out eventually. We saw it as an opportunity to communicate with them and teach them to have compassion for those who think differently.

You're 10 feet tall in character.

I'm 5'3". My late wife was 5'9". Early on, we developed the habit of kissing while she stood on the step below me. Once a lady asked Laura why she married such a short man. "I measure a man from the bottom of his heart to the top of his mind," she replied. "Measured that way, he's the tallest man I ever met." My, how I loved that woman!

That adds so much to this thread. Thank you for all the terrific information you have given all of us.

Don’t completely understand if they were doing this behind your back for 3 years or if it took 3 years for your wife to tell you she was doing this. Either way, in my opinion, your wife is extremely untrustworthy. I’d also guess this isn’t your wife’s only slip up. Seek counseling to get everything out in the open and be completely honest with each other. If everything works out, forgive and forget, then it’s time to jump back in together.

Hell must have frozen.

Oh, talk about a disaster just waiting to happen.

Adam is right. There are all kinds of swingers at clubs but most are very understanding about other peoples sexual limits. When you meet a couple, state those limits up front, usually about the time the conversation starts to turn sexual and just as hands start to roam. If the other couple wants more than what you're willing to do, that gives them (and you)the opportunity to move on and find what you all want for that evening. We started at clubs and over about a year evolved from watching to touching to soft swap and then eventually just eased into full swap. It was, by the time it happened, an entirely natural culmination of our progression. For you, what you do from here should be about what you and your wife want to experience and what you're willing to share with others. You don't have to take one step more than you want to with anybody. Lots of new couples a wary of swingers clubs because they are concerned about others expectations of them because they are at a club. You owe no one nothing other than adult behavior and the price of admission to the club and civility. On our 2nd or 3rd visit to a club in Maryland, we passed an open door where a nice looking couple was playing with a sybian. Both were naked and aroused. Mrs Doc had wanted to try one and the couple invited us in to share the toy and more. While I were very tempted, I could tell my wife was apprehensive so I thanked them and we moved on to a room just for us. What we had seen in that room and the alternative possibilities fueled a lot of conversation (and good sex) with us for weeks. We saw that couple again about 6 months later. Turned out he flew C-5's from Dover AFB. We soft swapped with them a couple of times and had about decided that they would be our 1st full swap experience. Unfortunately, he was transferred overseas and we lost track of them. 15 years later, we remember them and those early experiences fondly. If you stay within your comfort zone, so will you.

They are all 'soft-swing' clubs. As you are meeting couples at the club, simply let them know you have a limit. (I assume that you mean no PIV, but oral is okay; that's the 'classic' definition of soft-swing. If that's not it just tell your prospective partners before you begin engaging.) You may have some couples that say, 'no thanks.' They'd rather wait for full-swap. That's okay, it's their loss, isn't it?

I was dating a guy in college and he used to stay over quite a bit. I thought my roommate was asleep and we started fucking while she was in the room. When he pulled out and ejaculated on me, she was actually watching. I had no idea until the next day when she commented about his cock.

My first time was with a couple who wanted to have a 3-some with an uncircumcised guy. Once she had me in her mouth she all the sudden stopped and asked if her hubby could have a taste. What was I to say? I've been fine with it ever since and had a taste myself.

I guess my first experience started at a gangbang party I arranged for a couple I met online. The husband contacted me and asked if I had a few friends that would be interested in playing with his wife. I contacted a few guys and gave them the details. We arrived at the hotel and the wife was dressed sexy and ready to go. After a couple of drinks, the wife hopped on the bed and signaled that she was ready to start playing. One after another we took turns with her. Lots of sloppy seconds and thirds that night. Just as the last guy moved off the bed the husband dove in head first and started cleaning his wife up. At the time, there was so much adrenaline flowing I don't think anyone stopped to consider whether or not what we had just done was bi or not but it happened and we were all cool with it. The same couple contacted me again a few months later with a similar request. Except this time, the husband asked me to come over early before the other guys arrived. He said he and the wife had smoked a joint and wanted to get really freaky tonight. I headed over there and we started drinking and smoking. Out of nowhere, the wife told me to have a seat and ordered her husband to get on his knees and suck my cock. She came over, grabbed him by the neck, and pushed his mouth further down on my cock. Next she kneeled down and started to help him with the task. Once again, my adrenaline was flowing and I didn't dare ask them to stop. Plus the look in her eyes was one of pure lust. Later that night we did another gangbang and I remember that was the first time I saw her squirt. After my experience with that couple and seeing how turned on his wife was I have been hooked on couples that share cock ever since.

The first time was playing with another couple, the women are bi and wanted us men to suck one another after a swap. Did it to make them happy, and it was good. Later with another couple, the husband had already cum in my wife's ass, while I was in his wife's pussy, but hadn't cum. My wife joked that I should now stick it in his ass, his wife agreed. So I withdrew from her cunt and finished in him. It was hot enough that I got hard again not much later and bum fucked his wife too.

I was 17. My girlfriend was too and she had a female cousin of the same age. We went to her large Polish family home for easter weekend. The house was crowded so the girls were assigned a bedroom with a double bed which they were to share. Wonder of wonders (and the parents vodka) the boyfriends were told they could sleep on the floor in the room with the girls. The girls got changed in the bathroom and the other guy and I both rolled out sleeping bags. We had decided to wear our underwear and were in the bags when the girls came in wearing robes. My girl shut off the light but there was enough residual light from the window and the crack under the bedroom door that we could see that both girls were wearing long t-shirts and panties. The girls got under the covers and we four continued some of the conversation we had prior to going to bed. We also shared some of the vodka we managed to liberate from the adult party. After a bit, it got kind of quiet in the room and I know that my hand had traveled under the covers and up my girls thigh and under the t-shirt (That's how I knew there were panties involved). She and I whispered a bit and I got on my knees so I could involve both hands and lean in to kiss her. We started to make out and I eventually worked the covers off and the t-shirt up. As I looked across the bed, I could see that her cousin had lost her shirt completely. Her guy was standing next to the bed fondling her tit's which I was seeing for the first time. Her boyfriend was naked and she was stroking his cock. I whispered to Chris, my girlfriend, "look at Nancy and Rick". She gasped but then turned on her side to get a closer look at the 2nd dick she'd ever seen. I stood up and began to rub her ass and finally worked her t-shirt off. I tried to climb in the bed but she hissed "no, mom and dad are right below us". I then worked my hand under the waist band of her panties. She moaned before I got below her pubic hair, only the 2nd time ever, and when I looked up, Rick had his hand on her boob and his dick in Nancy's mouth. Chris eventually rolled on her back and I got her panties partway down her thighs. Her hand went to my crotch and she yanked at my underwear saying, "take these off"!!. I did and she started to stroke me as I gently found her clit. I couldn't take much more stimulation and leaned over the bed to put my dick to her lips. As I did, Rick moaned loudly and came in Linda's mouth. I guess she swallowed because she then rolled on her other side facing us as Rick leaned up against her and played with her ass. She said "Chrissy, let me watch you". I couldn't resist leaning over a bit more and touching her tits as I did, she pushed her ass back towards Rick who I think must have been fingering her. Chris gave me a little suck and about three strokes and that was it. I grunted and came, squirting on her hand the side of her face and almost to Nancy's boob. Nancy said, "Chrissy, you should have swallowed, now we'll have to sleep with all this goop between us". Chris made me clothes on and go down the hall to the bathroom for toilet paper to clean up my mess. When I got back, both girls were dressed and Rick was back in his sleeping bag. That never happened again, Chris never wanted to talk about it and about 6 months later we broke up and I went into the service. My next experience didn't happen for another decade.

I'm the opposite, I'd rather not have a guy that's a lot taller than me because then I get neck strain trying to kiss him. Heck, hubby is 5'10" and I'm 5'3" and I get neck strain kissing him if we are standing up.

I haven't noticed a preference. Dh is only an inch taller than me, and I've played with men shorter and taller than myself. Generally I've enjoyed them all

When Mr. Mimi and I met, I wasn't at all interested in male bi play. However, a post on this sight regarding male play got me so turned on that we have now added that, with the blessing of the Mr., to our repertoire. I have seen him get his cock sucked while I was riding our play partner and I almost rode that poor man in to the ground, I was so turned on. Next, I can't wait to see the Mr. suck cock. So excited that, because of this board, we are able to explore this fantasy together.

Yummy. I love watching gay porn, makes me SO wet. My husband has sucked and been sucked. He isn't bi at all - just open minded about what feels good. Lately he's been talking a lot about wanting to get fucked in the ass by a real cock (and not just me with a strap-on LOL). I hope we can make this fantasy of his come true!! MY fantasy is for him to fuck me while he's getting fucked in the ass. Talk about orgasm!!!! Lol

It turns me on to see two guys fucking on video, but I've never seen it in real life. I've also never inserted Pet into that fantasy because I know it's something he would never do. Now, if he ever fulfilled my fantasy of seeing him suck a dick... then my new fantasy might be to see him fucking another guy.

I've never been sexual with another man. I'm straight.

Never have but had opportunities to do so.