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Cpl has it right, ignore him. He is getting off from all the negative comments. He gets to post three more times for every negative post about him. Ignore him as Cpl said and he will do the best thing, play with himself. Let him have his ball and go home.

Trust me on this: the only person who wants to know LESS about your sex life is your kids. Even if they find something out, they won't want to know anything about it.

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I enjoy sex while high on cannabis. I feel it opens levels I can’t reach when not. All of my sensations are at a heightened level and it brings me to a more intense climax.

Wife and adult daughter are very close, they have always talked about almost everything. Daughter told wife she played with her best friend and her BF. Wife told her we had done the same and more. Nothing shocking, nothing graphic, just parenting where it was asked for and advice wife thought she needed.(mainly telling her she has to want it herself, don't let ANYONE pressure you) Every parent child relationship is different and every person has their way of dealing. If you wish them to not know, I agree, just tell them we want "us time" and leave it at that, or whatever your normal approximation would be. The open hand smacks on the other hand, treat it like we do our 17 year old, tell him to put his headphones on, and if he doesn't, he will immediately after lol. Best of luck!

My wife and I enjoyed our road trip along the coast of New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island, and Nova Scotia. One of the highlights was shopping for weed in St. John. My wife innocently asked if it was OK to take our purchases into the State of Maine where weed is sorta, kinda legal. The woman behind the counter chuckled and said, "I ain't gonna say, you're on your own for that". In actual, it's OK by the authorities in Maine but definitely not OK with the U.S. Customs people who might search your vehicle (and your person) on the way across the border.

We do the same thing at parties with our snowbird group. We either know everyone there or those we don't have been vetted and invited by the host so I'm quite comfortable with Mrs Doc going off to a room with one or more of the guys. One or two of them are quite well hung and thick. I've watched her with one or more of them and am always amazed at how incredibly sexy she looks in that kind of setting. Once Im sure she's having fun, I wander off for some of my own. Occasionally, I bring a woman back to the room with Mrs Doc and her partner/s and join in and sometimes we'll just watch. The first time she did that with a well hung guy I watched till she rode him to her first very wet orgasm of the night. It was simply erotic, like my own personal porn. Yes, the guy was larger than I but I was neither jealous or intimidated, she cums like that when she rides me or pretty much anybody else who can hit the spot. Yes we did talk about it afterwards and even the conversation was arousing for us. There was nothing negative about it. In fact, the snowbirds start to arrive in mid October and we're already excited about our friends being back and the opportunity for enjoying the variety they represent.

MIke, I know we're getting off topic here, but . . . My wife and I are into swinging and hotwifing. When we have MFMs, usually at our home, I love to watch. But when we go to parties, like PSU we split up. When I see my wife having fun I might observe for a little while, but before too long one of the other females will approach me (or vice versa) and I'll start having fun with her, leaving my wife to her own devices. It's a situational thing. . .

Feel free to look, just don't stare.

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We usually couple swap. Not clear that anyone else in the group did. We went to one semi-naked party where everyone stared at each other. We had a hot tub encounter with another couple. We attended a party where they were putting whipped cream on women’s boobs and licking it off. We left early, not excited to have entire party lick wife’s boobs. Some guys not her speed. We asked another couple to come to our room to play after massive flirting by their husband. They said yes. Then they did not show up and did not call. We called them and got a stuttering excuse. We presume they flirt, don’t play. Our bad, should’ve vetted better. No one asked us to play. We are reasonably attractive for our age (my wife more so) and we were within the average age of the group. Find it odd. Lots of show, no go. We had a great time anyway.

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I see that you missed the point entirely Nappy. Go back and re-read. You'll get your participation trophy at the end.

We both are Marijuana users for its medical properties and recreational properties! Here in Canada it is legal finally as it should be. The amount of people out there that are clueless about it is ridiculous. I guess all those years of being brainwashed to believe it is some hard drug like heroin are hard to get over for some people. We have found more people in the lifestyle that are uptight about it then the vanilla people we know. We don’t and won’t hide the fact that we do it from anyone, because we can do whatever the hell we want. We go as far as to say on our profiles that we do it and if you have a problem with it move on. Our preference is to actually play with others that do as well, because it always makes for an exciting night. No it is not a gateway drug! That would be alcohol which seems to be excepted by so many people that have a problem with weed.

Over the years you develop a network of friends and contacts. Some of us keep within that group, others are always looking for new adventures. We stay within a group of 8 couples (approx.) and we have been with each of them many times....on occasion, we will seek outside action, but not very often

My suggestion would be to get into steady sexual relationships with a woman and a man, both of them knowing, to explore how to please others and what you like. People here would agree that sex, swinging, and life are best enjoyed within the context of a devoted relationship - most swingers are married. Random hookups can be found elsewhere.

Napoleon has actually contributed something to my experience on this site, I just learned how to use the ignore feature!

I don’t know how Nappy considers himself a swinger, no group sex experience, may have multiple partners but there is no interaction. Once upon a time his posts carried mild entertainment value. Now they are just boring and repetitive. None of his “girlfriends” have posted here. My next step is the ignore button. I recommend it, having used it before on another poster.

It’s amazing how someone can post a long diatribe with one hand. I for one will not pay any attention to any troll on this site. I will not play into a troll who is looking for confrontation and as others say adds nothing to the conversation. My recommendation is ignore ignore ignore. It’s the best answer.

I have news for you Nappy, going to a swingers club doesn't make you a swinger. It just makes you someone who can afford the price of admission. To be a swinger, you need a deep appreciation for women, you need to be playful and caring and giving. Buying your latest squeeze a ticket to get in the club isn't giving, it's you meeting your own selfish need for control and to instill envy in those who see you. Probably what you didn't like about the swinging atmosphere is that swingers tend to recognize one another and they saw you for what you are, selfish, insecure and more than a little weird. No pal, you're not a swinger and trust me when I tell you, you never will be.

I agree. There is a lot you can learn here that can benefit you down the road but right now, you are not even close to swinger material.

My opinion is that you need more personal direction than is possible here, thus my agreement about the sex therapist. Getting to the point where practical knowledge can inform fantasy is far, far better than the other way around. Walking before running, that sort of thing. By all means stick around though. As a theoretical knowledge base this is one of the best places around.

I disagree. All of these "body-image" movements nowadays are trying to convince men that they should find overweight women just as attractive as non-overweight women. And if a woman want a man that's over 6 feet tall(body) it's her "preference" and everyone should accept it. But if a man want a woman that's not overweight he's demonized and called shallow for his "preference".

I'm not combative. I just don't avoid speaking up about double standards or men and women hypocritical ways. Speaking truth will always offend someone.

You seem to be combative with everyone, I don’t speak for all women. No man or woman sure play with someone they aren’t comfortable with for any reason. Too big, too small, too heavy, too thin, you don’t need to be with anyone you aren’t attracted to. I put my standards at obnoxious, opionated people.

Napoleon, I respectfully disagree. A single man who has a particular preference isn't shallow - he's welcome to not interact with anyone he feels isn't his 'cup of tea.' A man - or a woman - becomes 'shallow' when they actively disparage those people who they aren't enamored with. The old phrase 'live and let live' comes to mind.

Did you ask anyone to play. Sometimes nothing happens because everyone is waiting for the other couple to ask...

True, but then there is the issue of who has access to the information and how it is used. Some things cannot be unseen, unheard and so on.

You need to do whatever makes you two secure and happy. That includes managing information. Eventually adult children tend to figure things out. What matters to children, young or old, is the security they have flowing from the integrity of their parents' relationship. In a word, they sense the love their parents have for each other. Whether your kids are 3 or 30, you are their strongest role models one generation ahead. It is not, repeat not, the lifestyle or the knowledge that mom and dad swing that will affect them. What will affect them is how they see that in the context of your relationship with each other. They know that adults have sex. They have sex. Like all kids, they have difficulty processing the idea of their parents having sex (except that one time, of course, that brought them into existence) unless conversations about sex and sexuality have been part of their growing up. And that is fairly rare. FWIW our adult daughter knows that our cruises are lifestyle cruises. (We hew to the "what happened on the boat stays on the boat" rule.) She knows that some of our friends are special friends, she knows that we are naked in the hot tub with them when they come to visit. And so on. While she has zero interest in the LS, she is strongly reassured that mom and dad are still in love and very happy. Indeed, she will remark "would you guys get a room!" when we hug and kiss in front of her. We point out that we own our home, we all laugh and move on with the conversation. Bottom line, you have to decide how to manage the information, and for whom you are trying to control the information.

I thought this topic came up a little while ago and you said your first 3some was MMM. Maybe I have you confused with somebody else.

You're 10 feet tall in character.

I'm 5'3". My late wife was 5'9". Early on, we developed the habit of kissing while she stood on the step below me. Once a lady asked Laura why she married such a short man. "I measure a man from the bottom of his heart to the top of his mind," she replied. "Measured that way, he's the tallest man I ever met." My, how I loved that woman!

Mine really loves watching - almost like it’s live porn. If I see that he’s really turned on, I’ll make sure I give him a show. His favorite is when i’m on top facing him so he can really see the guys big cock entering me. Makes him cum every time.

I can't say this was true from everyone.....when we went to a club with a group we met off of Kik, a couple of the men (from couples) wouldn't let up after we were there--even after I let them know we were there only to watch....this kind of put off both of us for the last couple of years...hopefully I can get my wife interested again.

We are still in the "watching" phase. A soft swap is our agreed upon next step. We admittedly have concerns about encountering an experienced full-swap couple who will not understand our current limits.

Not picking a fight but flat-out disagree with the above generalization that most if not all start out soft swap. Many people view it all as 'sex' and draw no artificial boundaries. We were full swap from the jump, as were many of our couple friends. Also, we play with these 'full swap' couples regularly and often come home completely satisfied with our hot evening only to reflect and realize that everything we'd done was 'soft swap'. Point is - it all can be hot.

I don't want to use it. I don't smoke anything. I don't drink alcohol much. I might drink alcohol once or twice a year. I am addicted to cheese cake.

The only thing I watch on tv are sports games. I don't care about all the other trash on tv. I even stopped watching Hollywood movies over 10 years ago. Everything on tv and movies nowadays is trash. And having naked breast on daily tv isn't going to change how I feel about daily tv.

Actually I've found the opposite. There are outliers, to be sure, but most mature adults are quite capable of recognizing such situation and dealing with them appropriately. I'm sorry your experience has apparently been different, Machiavel.

As a male, it's extremely hard to argue against two women who both want to suck my cock. That's not how you spend most of your time in a real FMF, though. I have no complaints about any of it, but there's a lot of work involved keeping both entertained and running warm unless they're both bisexual enough to help with each other. MFM isn't just easier to find a partner for, it's easier to perform in a way that leaves everyone thoroughly "done".

As a woman, I prefer FFM. I like one of each and the sense that we are "using" the man (he doesn't mind).

Have your wife wear something like this to answer the door. Experience proves that things will move quickly from that.

Hi guys. I know it’s been forever. We got rid of the guy we invited over. We can call him G for now. It turns out he was married with a family which explained all the flakiness when we were supposed to meet. I don’t want to reveal what I do for a living but I found his address, that he’s married , social media acct, everything. The thing is that when we met him we told him to be honest and that we didn’t care if he was married or not. This was just for the wife to have fun. While we were getting rid of G one of the guys who originally met but had moved away moved back. He sent us a text and asked if we were still looking. He was a very nice respectful young man and we told him we were still looking. The wife had a few play dates with him on Skype and we scheduled to meet. We met at a restaurant just to make sure we were all comfortable. It went well and we’ve scheduled for him to come over next weekend. Let’s see what happens. I’m kinda looking forward to it but at this point it’s been so long trying to put this together that I don’t really know how I feel. Should I even look forward to this ?

Contrary to what we might think after listening/reading the "news," there are a lot of really nice guys out there. Finding them for a specific purpose can be tricky, but it looks like you accomplished it. Really appreciate your posts, he said vicariously.

Yes, swinging is just one facet of my sex life, really. I've never thought of myself as first and foremost a swinger, but a free, bisexual woman who also happens to swing. lol

That is far more than a swinger relationship. Lucky you.

Have a lady friend who had a similar relationship with another woman. The whole nine yards including assisting each other birthing their daughters. Eventually one moved away, tho they still visit. Their relationship has spanned marriages and other relationships with men. I'm not really sure if 'Swinging' accurately describes their relationship.

Well, I get the preference for taller guys as I get the preference for slimmer women. J likes her men tall but she's just 5'2". Still, early on she passed on a few guys that were around the 5'9" range. After much more experience with men of all sizes I think she will agree that guys shorter than 5'10" on the average, have been better lovers for us. Short guys are much more flexible, and have much more desire to please, in our experience. I wonder if the problem stems from childhood. Seems every asshole I knew was short and had something to prove. It got to a point I didn't associate with short guys due to the mental baggage they put on themselves. Not so with mature short men. I prefer them now. Now it's the big guy that wants to make sure everyone around knows how big he is. sheesh!