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To that last question…..swinger, definitely!!!!! Cheating causes pain to flow down hill from the person cheated on to the kids and friends and down through extended family. There might be a "yuk" factor for dependent children or even adult children discovering that their parents are swingers but a little "yuk" is a much better outcome than the anger, recriminations and the choosing of sides that happens in a cheating situation.

My wife and I enjoy MFMs. I like watching in the beginning as my wife begins foreplay with the other guy. Then I join in. I like kissing her and fondling her tits as the man is performing oral on her. When they are actually in coitus, if they’re in a position like cowboy, I’ll twiddle her clit - she really enjoys that! Basically, I look at myself as an enhancement to her enjoyment as she’s playing with another man. We’ve tried DP a few times, it didn’t work out that well. You have to be very patient, it’s physically challenging, and both men have to be very hard. One thing I’ve enjoyed is I’ll recline, my back on pillows and my head against the headboard. My wife will sit on my lap, facing away from me, and we’ll both open up our legs. The man crawls between them and enters her. For him, it’s much the same as missionary when her ass is raised up on pillows. As they’re screwing, I can put my arms around her and fondle her tits, rub her stomach, fiddle with her hair. I get to feel their movements. My dick is in her ass crack, a most delicious feeling as she slides up and down on it.

The thing I miss most is curling up with Laura and giggling together about what had happened.

There are three separate ideas surfacing in the thread regarding non-monogamy and what kids know. It might be useful to separate them. 1. Not all couples who are married remain monogamous. There are two kinds of non-monogamy, consensual (swinging) and non-consensual (swinging). This statement is a fact of life. Kids need to learn this, if only to understand that "and the prince and princess lived happily ever after" is a rare-if-ever event. It is the same as shattering the tooth fairy and Santa Claus myths. At some point, parents have to acknowledge this as fact, if only to tell the kids that they are still in love with one another. 2. What parents disclose to kids about their own non-monogamy. If there has been a separation or a divorce, it's pretty obvious: my parents are fucking people other than each other. Legality ("oh, we married the new partner") is not the issue--it is that the parental bond has been broken. The confusion on the kids' part is not about legality. It is the idea that love and sex are no longer neatly aligned in the manner of the prince and princess (now king and queen) and _their_ princes and princesses. We have said this before, we will say it again--what matters is love not sex. If the parents are still a couple, show that love for each other. If the parents have split, the child/ren need to see/feel/know that they are loved. We speak from our experiences as children of divorced parents, sadly. 3. That the parents continue to play outside of the marriage and enjoy it. That's a really awkward statement and a really awkward reality. Not every family unit is going to be comfortable sharing that information. It doesn't change the truth. It just avoids confronting it. It is one thing to _suspect_ that one's parents swing. It is another thing to be confronted by that fact. It's worth asking yourself: would rather know that your mom/dad was a (serial) cheater? Or a swinger?

I enjoyed, and I believe my wife did too, doing her doggy while she gave our friend oral one time. But I think the most fun was one time she was being attended to in the missionary position and her partner wasn't kissing her. In fact, he was so intent on his pleasure that his face wasn't close to hers at all. I know my wife likes to be kissed during intercourse so I joined them and my wife and I had a long, passionate, kiss while he continued. I think it worked well for all three of us. He may not have even knows that we were kissing and he enjoyed a very nice ejaculation. My wife must have liked his movements because I could feel her thrusting back up at him and her kisses became more passionate as she orgasmed. And, for me? It was hot. When I'm having intercourse with her and we're kissing, I'm divided on which pleasure to concentrate on. It's like oral, I don't really like 69 because I have to switch between enjoying the feel of her mouth on me and the pleasure of her taste and feel on my mouth. So, that kiss really let me know what kissing her is like when she's in her throes of passion.

I’m not sure how you were using Kik, but we would connect on the site (SLS or SDC), move the 4 way conversation over to Kik to coordinate meeting and just to get to know each other better, and then meet. We didn’t go out there joining large groups. It was literally just us and the other couple chatting....

We would never look at someone as being uptight if they didn’t like pot! Just like we wouldn’t if they didn’t like booze, prescription drugs, coffee, meat or whatever else isn’t their thing. If they however do not tolerate and accept other people doing and enjoying these things then ya we would go with uptight.

Uptight swingers makes no sense? So they’re down on 420 friendly people and up on gangbangs? Ummm, hmmmm well I suppose.

Seems more like comparing bananas and peaches....

My wife is the same way, she hates that I trim below. She says she likes the feel and depending on the position it can make it tougher to orgasm when it's short. She also LOVES a short stubble on my face and used properly the chin drives her insane. I do shave for all the parties we attend though.

If the chemistry is right and the guy knows what he's doing, it's all good.

Met a woman at a local swingers' club, gave her a big, wet face-to-face kiss. She says, "are you going to give me a beard burn?" "Where do you want it," I replied. "Right here," she brightly replies, pointing 'down there'. I've had no complaints about my Don Johnson three-day growth.

This! Hubby can't keep a smooth face for more than an hour, and it used to bother me until he learned how to use it to his (my? lol) advantage. Now I know how to get other men to do the same. I kind of love stubble!

I used to only find clean-shaven men attractive but I have come around to liking the trimmed stubble look. Not to mention, it sends shivers down my spine when they use it correctly on specific parts of the body. So, I wouldn't deny a man to go down on my because he has stubble. I would only deny him if I wasn't comfortable with him.

My husband doesn't shave right before he goes down on me and it is fine. He doesn't try to sand my labia with his chin though! I think if you are using your tongue and mouth you will be fine. I was with a play partner once and was reluctant for him to go down on me b/c I wasn't freshly waxed. He said, "I don't care," and pointed to his mustache. We both laughed and it was a good ice-breaker. It was also the first time I came with someone besides my husband! I am usually more attracted to clean shaven guys, but my pussy can't tell if someone has a mustache or beard.

swinging parents? no. But we suspect a boyfriend. Our kids found out about us when the youngest was 17. We ran across a twin who walked into their parents swing party. See the story *initiation of twins*. They didn't have any problems with running into them at parties but they had very open minded parents.