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The thing I miss most is curling up with Laura and giggling together about what had happened.

When I was 24 I was at a neighborhood cookout at a friends house. One of the guests was a very attractive dark haired woman who I thought may have been close to 30. We hit it off, I was single, she was divorced, we hung out well into the evening. I asked for her number and a date and we started seeing each other regularly over the next few weeks. She wasn't easy but I finally got her into bed and it was a revelation. We dated for almost a year and she taught me so many things about being a good lover and she showed me things I'd never experienced with the 19-23 year olds I had been dating. It turns out that she was actually 42 and had a daughter in that 19-23 age bracket. I didn't actively seek her out because she was older but her age and experience made a huge difference in my life and I've never forgotten her and what she taught me.

I am just curious as to why you and your wife are no longer as open and honest with each other now that you are not swinging anymore? I can’t see the two of us ever not being just as open and honest with each other whether we ever played with anyone else again. All the experiences we have shared together and the trust we have built with each other is enough for us to both know there is no other way to live our lives together. We are a team and support each other regardless of what the other persons feelings are at the time. Personally I could never be in a relationship again where there was no communication and trust. Been there done that in the past with my ex wife and nobody wins.

What the fuck is wrong with American culture? We can watch men, women, and children butchered in various vile manners, watch seemingly endless parades of programs about serial killers, vampires, and other creatures. But the slightest shot of a nude breast or bum is offensive? To who? Is our society so repressed that we act more like the Inquisition, than the freedom-loving people we are supposed to be? The nude body is taboo , but a dismembered one isn't? WHAT THE FUCK!!!!!! Ok..... rant over.

Not all of us said the same thing. I understand David is choosing to keep his marriage. Before the talk as a foursome I think you and Amy need a big talk. Why did she decide to tell you now? I do understand some women don’t want multiple partners and not wanting to further explore. However a few red flags do stand out to me. Can she take a break from Ken? Ken and Amy already have a close working relationship, is this more poly for her? You use the term “making love”, I have passionate sex with my partners. Those endorphins can confuse things but it’s important to remember why everyone is there. Lesley may be fine with an open relationship as he comes back to her and it’s not cheating. She may be comfortable with them being alone but that doesn’t mean you have to be. Different strokes for different folks. What’s important is what will work for you and being honest with each other and those you play with.

There have been plenty of instances of relationships being salvaged after cheating. Both parties have to have the maturity and desire to do the work. I am not condoning cheating. If a marriage is not going to survive then a grown up conversation is a better way to handle the ending. I get it may be an absolute deal breaker for some people but “kicking to the curve” reminds me of a child having a tantrum.

It’s definitely deceitful. Even if they had only discussed it and planned it without talking to you first would have been unfair. That’s a big lack of communication, no opportunity to discuss this as a couple. Bonus that you have had some fun of your own. Is Lesley having sex with you because she wants to or only to please her husband? I would suggest a break and some counseling before opening your marriage again. Honestly it doesn’t sound good, but if you value the relationship it will be worth the effort. Even if it doesn’t work “kicking to the curve” can be more harmful than sitting down and having an adult conversation.

I guess the way I describe it is women are easier to read and physically easier to please. Men can be stoic and hard to read. In my experience, men have many more sexual issues than women. Some can't get hard, but can come. Some get rock hard but can't come from oral. Some guys come when they first expose their dick. Some guys require a commitment to completing the job. The time afterward between men and women is 180 degrees different. Women will hang, relax, cuddle, chat. Men will look at the floor as they get dressed as if the house is on fire and bolt the fuck out. Other then that, they are exactly alike! Preference? hmm, women can come and come and come. They can be played like an instrument and respond nicely. Something about making a man come is more rewarding and it's a much more intense experience. It's close but women just provide a more complete experience and are nicer to be around.

I'v always enjoyed being with men 30+ years older than me. Now I am with someone 64 and he loves a full bush. So of course now I have a full bush but it's neat. He loves it and honestly I do too... What surprised me is when he has other younger men join us. Surprised how many men in their 20's and 30's love that I have a full bush too! Seems to be normal for men 55+ that I am with to really love a full bush. So pleasantly surprised and happy!

I’m all natural

Nope!

we both love women with full bush. I am shaved but we still like them.

I've always enjoyed women that trim (or don't trim) their pubes so that they believe they are at their sexiest.

I wish there were more full bushes.

I have no desire to get married or have kids. I don't want to get divorced-raped like 50% or more men who get married. In terms of my finances, free time, minimum stress in my life, physical health, peace of mind, access to beautiful women, I'm doing extremely well not being married or having kids. And I'm 100% straight, you dweeb.